I have become a WZ quitter...

the difference is that an MLB players JOB is to play baseball. and they make millions of dollars while doing it.

if my job was to play every warzone to the end, win or lose, AND i got paid huge piles of money, i too would be there till the end.

so my solution to this problem is as follows

BW needs to employ us all to play their game, and they need to pay us huge sums of money as well. that should solve the problem of people leaving warzones. you want your huge paycheck? stay in the warzone...

Only time I insta-quit is when I queue up for a Warzone and get placed in an ongoing one with my team down by several points and only a few minutes left on the match.

I don't know about you, but I'm only interested in participating in matches from the beginning and then I'll stay to the end.

Tbh, getting thrown into these matches already in progress with little time left and no chance of winning just feels like a complete waste of time.

However, hopefully this will also get addressed with the rated Warzones.

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Just Lol. I GUARANTEE you will still lose some of those rated games.

And apart from getting the impression youre a mediocre player at best, youre not playing one opponent.

Also, to the guild quitters, youre just laughable. no more to be said on that really.

lol im juvenile for having a differing opinion, i can taste the irony

to answer your questions:

1. it became mandatory to win games when the objective is TO WIN GAMES. not a hard concept for some, i guess you are not some

2. leaving a wz is justified when it takes 6 hours to complete dailies if you dont. some of us dont have 6 hours a day to play or just dont want to so we do what needs to be done to get things done

3. too much effort for what? actually reading and responding to my post? i think you are confusing them with you. id like to hear your explanation for this self proclaimed title of "self entitiled", sound like a baseless insult to justify needing people to carry you through all of your games and throwing a tantrum when they dont

i hate to burst your bubble but playing for hours just to get 3 wins is not fun. now if the emphasis was not on winning (which it wont be soon) then id predict a lot less leavers. since i obtained a full set of champ gear before lvl 60 i havent left a wz once, as soon as i hit 60 youll be damn sure im not gonna spend hours working on dailies. as soon as we get rid of people like you this game is going to be a better place and we can all get our dailies done in a reasonable amount of time, until then you can continue to be a part of the problem and ill continue to fix it

To the OP The really sad thing Is you sold out your standards because of peer pressure . If you don't stay true to who you are who are you really?



I get a laugh out of the idiots who drop the same match the same side 3 times or more in one game.

Part of the problem is Bio-wares the other part is the players.
Bio ware

1. Poor gear itemization
2. Poor reward mechanics
3. Clunky system with reward caps
4. Poorly designed Worlds and War zones from a PvP prespective (Open world PvP design is a joke pre-50 and ilum sucks as well)
5. Extremly bad design on making Battle master gear available
   

However that's no justification for exploiting the system as it is.

Players

1. Under geared players but thats easily remedied after a few matches
2. Egotistical players that's a fatal flaw. they land on both sides of this debate .

SWTOR: where every dick from the gaming universe converges to have one big dick off...

I understand that, but when they people who JUST want valor, gear, and XP ruin the PVP matches for the people who are actually there FOR the PVP matches, it just sucks. You get what you want either way, but whether or not we get what we want is at the mercy of fate and quitters. That's not fair, IMO.
If you stay in the match, you still get valor at the end, and one could argue that, depending on your server queue times, you get more valor by staying, and you get commendations, too. That's EVERY finished match, regardless of winning or losing.

When you quit, though, you pretty much guarantee a loss for the remaining players, NOT because they need to be carried, but because they can't be vastly outnumbered for a full minute or more.








It's far better to leave the game BEFORE it starts, so I at least commend you on that, but not everyone that has a problem with quitters is a 12k health noob. I'm in my 40's in valor rank, with nearly full T2 PVP gear with the gaps filled in with T1. I'm not a great PVP'er by any means, but I am fairly good. I hate quitters because they open the flood gate for the other team to walk all over me.


You get valor and commendations for staying. You get nothing for leaving.


1. A lot of people don't leave because of scrubs, they leave the very second that their team falls behind. I've been in matches where we score immediately early on and lead 1-0 for a few minutes, but 8 minutes in if the other team takes a 2-1 leave, 4 people quit. That doesn't make sense. Clearly the game is fairly even and a good competition.

2. Not really, the point is that they play the game. WZ quitters don't play the game at all, they're looking for handouts.

3. Obviously to TRY to win very game, but reality is that you CAN'T win every game. For every game that is won, someone has to lose, too. I understand that a lot of PVE scrubs and clueless noobs want to get their dailies ASAP because that's the only way they're capable of getting decent gear, but for those of us who PVP for the sake of PVP'ing, the dailies aren't much of an issue because we're going to play enough games to get our 3 victories eventually anyway.
And if you want to argue that it's a time constraint issue, I LOL at that. I'm a high school English teacher and a coach and I'm in grad school, too. I'm lucky to get an hour or two a day during the week to play TOR. A lot of quitters are unemployed high schoolers or college students who have all the time in the world.


The assumption that everyone who is against quitters is bad or needs to be carried is one made only by fools. Congratulations! You're unable to think logically and understand that there is more than one viewpoint on an issue!


How did you know I'm not a professional athlete? Are you a Sith in real life, too?


OK, so in little league or high school baseball does the other team just walk off the field if they're down 4-0? No, they keep playing! And if you argue that there's a mercy rule if it gets really bad, let me remind you that there are mercy rules in TOR PVP, too. The point was that teams don't just walk off the field when they're losing, they keep playing. I used MLB teams because the disparity of talent between the Brewers and Astros was an easy way to make the illustration.

Your overconfidence is your weakness.

I'll leave if I absolutely know the team is going to lose, if i've done my dailies, I don't leave usually, i'll just farm the whole game.

Fact is, if you enter a War zone with nothing but greens on, you're basically costing your team a man, and there really is no excuse to have nothing but green on at 50.

I don't take much issue with those that leave a match where they are being utterly dominated already with no chance of winning, doubly so in a 5-0 huttball where the leading side is clearly attempting to farm.

I prefer to stick through the above matches 90% of the time but won't begrudge someone looking to drop.




That said, what is getting more and more obnoxious are the quick-fire quitters who do a quick glance at the team and decide at the outset what will happen, or drop as soon as the first huttball score/voidstar bomb/alderaan two turrets.


Yesterday had a pretty good run in the morning with five wins in about seven matches. One three-win stretch of that included a couple people that the rapid-quitters would scoff at (a 12,500 health rank 19 valor sorc) for example. At least twice among those wins we were as a unit considerably outgeared but played the win and let team attempt its 1v1 devolution.



I have witnessed a decent number of 2-0 comebacks (I don't count 1-0 as enough to be termed a comeback) and even ended up on a team that turned a 3-0 deficit into a 5-4 huttball win (with one of the more geared players leaving at the 2-0 mark).




So fine, leave when it is an utter lost cost because you don't want to lose those 5 minutes of your time. But Have a little faith and gumption to see how a match will progress before throwing your hands up with a pronounced "I quit dis b____" at the first sign of trouble.