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universal translator anyone?

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Maidel
02.25.2012 , 05:46 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by sboni View Post
I don't believe that I am whining, or making a fuss, I didn't originally say anything about sight becuase it isn't so much about sight, as it is about a bad color pallet, and the fact that I would like them to actually talk, which is why I mentioned a universal translator, instead of just having them speak basic. You could hear the gibberish in the background, but the forground would be basic for you.

I also mentioned that it would be an option, for those that want it, or those that don't.

Also, with a universal translator, it wouldn't have to be different voices, or the original actors, it could be one generic voice for any non basic speech.
No - you are quite correct. You didnt whine about it.


However you did create a thread which said it didnt happen in the movies, when, erm, it does and you ignored my post that explained it so I have reincluded it for your perusal:


Quote:
Erm...

In the game your character appears to understand them, its just you as the player that needs the subtitles.


Which is, erm, just like the films....

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sboni
02.25.2012 , 05:59 AM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Maidel View Post
No - you are quite correct. You didnt whine about it.


However you did create a thread which said it didnt happen in the movies, when, erm, it does and you ignored my post that explained it so I have reincluded it for your perusal:
What I meat by that was that everyone understood everyone more or less (there are some exceptions like huttese for some, or the language that the princess spoke while she was a bounty hunter. But in general you get the feeling that most everyone speaks basic, and the ones that don't are numerous enough that many people have them as additional languages. They didn't in most cases need translators for the most common languages, which is mostly what we are dealing with. They are common enough that our characters understand them with no issues... Would be nice if we could do the same.

Examples:
Uncle speaking jawa (obviously not botchi though)
Luke speaking jawa, and the twilek tongue.
Han speaking kyshek (?), Huttese, rodian, among others.

If I remember correctly, the new movies had universal translators in the senators hover booths, so it isn't like the tech isn't in the universe.

Also, 3PO was a protocol droid.. that is a lot more than just translation.

Just some thoughts.

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DarkCarnage
02.25.2012 , 07:12 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by sboni View Post
What I meat by that was that everyone understood everyone more or less (there are some exceptions like huttese for some, or the language that the princess spoke while she was a bounty hunter. But in general you get the feeling that most everyone speaks basic, and the ones that don't are numerous enough that many people have them as additional languages. They didn't in most cases need translators for the most common languages, which is mostly what we are dealing with. They are common enough that our characters understand them with no issues... Would be nice if we could do the same.

Examples:
Uncle speaking jawa (obviously not botchi though)
Luke speaking jawa, and the twilek tongue.
Han speaking kyshek (?), Huttese, rodian, among others.

If I remember correctly, the new movies had universal translators in the senators hover booths, so it isn't like the tech isn't in the universe.

Also, 3PO was a protocol droid.. that is a lot more than just translation.

Just some thoughts.
you rather your ships driod tlakign for all teh chars in taht ear numbing voice he has? i rather blow my brains out with a blaster.

as for the senators , they like has either a protocal driod built in to their booths or liek we do now have a group that understands both languages and translates for ever else hat does not understands,.
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notebene
02.25.2012 , 07:17 AM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by sboni View Post
In the movies you don't see them say "oh, wait, let me finish reading your subtitles so I can understand you"... They know what the people are saying....
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xGBox
02.25.2012 , 07:23 AM | #35
This discussion is great and all, but here's one thing I can definitely tell you: It's not going to happen without an expansion pack, and even then it probably won't include support for vanilla content. And if you're not going to be consistent about it, then why bother?

Adding localized VO for aliens will cost money. It's money that doesn't really need to be spent because, quite frankly, subtitles worked fine in the movies and it would be more consistent to have it be the same in the game. And remember, it's not just English that would need localizing, it's every language that the game supports throughout different regions. So now, after I've explained all this, would it be financially feasible to have all this work to be released as a free patch?

Sorry guys, it's a great idea, but unless you threw this idea to BioWare three years ago this will probably never happen.

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Wilde_Night
02.25.2012 , 07:24 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by sboni View Post
What I meat by that was that everyone understood everyone more or less (there are some exceptions like huttese for some, or the language that the princess spoke while she was a bounty hunter. But in general you get the feeling that most everyone speaks basic, and the ones that don't are numerous enough that many people have them as additional languages. They didn't in most cases need translators for the most common languages, which is mostly what we are dealing with. They are common enough that our characters understand them with no issues... Would be nice if we could do the same.

Examples:
Uncle speaking jawa (obviously not botchi though)
Luke speaking jawa, and the twilek tongue.
Han speaking kyshek (?), Huttese, rodian, among others.

If I remember correctly, the new movies had universal translators in the senators hover booths, so it isn't like the tech isn't in the universe.

Also, 3PO was a protocol droid.. that is a lot more than just translation.

Just some thoughts.
Actually, as far was we know, all the charcaters you used as an example only understood the language and never actually spoke it.
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terminova
02.25.2012 , 07:45 AM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by sboni View Post
I am all for immersion... but seriously.. the silly voice overs instead of having someone actually speak something you can understand sucks...

In the movies you don't see them say "oh, wait, let me finish reading your subtitles so I can understand you"... They know what the people are saying....

It also sucks visually on bright planets like hoth where reading that text on a white background is a bear.

Heck, give it as an option.. for those people that "need" to hear the gibberish to feel like it is star warsy enough for them, let them hear that, for the rest give us English.
What I did was set up one of the chat windows to display only what NPCs say which ends up as yellow on a black background.


Maybe try that?

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Azzras
02.25.2012 , 07:49 AM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Giondi View Post
Also, if they could add an option to have some droids switch from their pseudo-robotic nonsense to English, that would be great. I love this game, but I seriously quit playing my Knight because having to try and read lines like "T7 + Jedi = Saving the galaxy!" before it moved on to the next stupid thing that idiotic droid said was tedious. I had to read a couple of his lines a couple times to figure out what the hell he was saying, and it would usually move to the next one before I could.
The funny thing about this is in the movies you couldn't understand R2-D2. Either C3PO would translate or, in Luke's case, his X-Wing translated for him.

You as a character shouldn't be able to understand what the little droid says without some form of translator.
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sboni
02.25.2012 , 11:40 AM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Wilde_Night View Post
Actually, as far was we know, all the charcaters you used as an example only understood the language and never actually spoke it.
true enough, It was early, I was tired, I mean speaking as in comprehending. sorry for the confusion.

It was clear that in the examples those people understood what the alien was speaking, and the alien understood basic.

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Maidel
02.25.2012 , 12:08 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by sboni View Post
true enough, It was early, I was tired, I mean speaking as in comprehending. sorry for the confusion.

It was clear that in the examples those people understood what the alien was speaking, and the alien understood basic.
But that's exactly what happens in the game. My character clearly understands them and they clearly understand basic.

I still don't understand your point.

The only one with subtitles is the player, exactly the same as the audience in the films.