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Most Powerful Jedi of All Time

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Most Powerful Jedi of All Time

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Rayla_Felana
02.24.2012 , 11:23 PM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by Ruliya View Post
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This is a thousand years later, obviously he has learned a few tricks since.

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Zippyman
02.24.2012 , 11:25 PM | #202
I feel like its partially my fault but this thread has gone far off topic, according to george lucas, without whom this conversation or anything Star Wars would ever have existed in the first place, luke is the most powerful. And though I do dislike a great deal of george lucas' decisions and ideas about the universe of late it all still began within his imagination
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Ruliya
02.24.2012 , 11:36 PM | #203
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This is a thousand years later, obviously he has learned a few tricks since.
What is a thousand years later? the SW:ToR Emperor is only a few hundred years old, from what Revan and the game tells us. He can learn nothing in the end as he has to set Revan loose. - Compared to Palpatine, I will have to read Darth Plaguis Book first to understant all tha.

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I feel like its partially my fault but this thread has gone far off topic, according to george lucas, without whom this conversation or anything Star Wars would ever have existed in the first place, luke is the most powerful. And though I do dislike a great deal of george lucas' decisions and ideas about the universe of late it all still began within his imagination
According to Lucas Luke is a bit player in his attempt to tell Anakin/Vader's story. Which after-all is what he says the trilogy is all about.

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Rayla_Felana
02.24.2012 , 11:42 PM | #204
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What is a thousand years later? the SW:ToR Emperor is only a few hundred years old, from what Revan and the game tells us. He can learn nothing in the end as he has to set Revan loose. - Compared to Palpatine, I will have to read Darth Plaguis Book first to understant all that.
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Zippyman
02.24.2012 , 11:42 PM | #205
The thousand years later thing is pulled from the novel SWTOR: Revan, reffering referring to Darth Vitiate giving Scourge immortality in a matter of an instant
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BrandonSM
02.24.2012 , 11:50 PM | #206
Sidious was pretty much Immortal.

But since we are discussing Sid vs Vitate again. I will just have to right-out quote Wookieepedia.


Since, I don't feel like searhcing my books and memory.


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Trained to perfection by Darth Plagueis,


1. Darth Sidious was the most powerful Dark Lord of the Sith in the history of the Sith Order—something he himself firmly believed.[18] Additionally, he was the only Sith Lord in a thousand years to achieve the ultimate goal of the Sith: to eradicate the Jedi Order and bring the galaxy under the rule of the Sith.

That right there makes him the most successful Sith Lord.




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2.Despite his frail appearance, Darth Sidious was incredibly skilled in lightsaber combat, one of the greatest duelists of all time. A Sith Swordmaster, Sidious was one of the very few who was the equal of Yoda or Mace Windu. Thanks to his tremendous skill, he killed Agen Kolar and Saesee Tiin—who were considered to be two of the finest Jedi of their time—each with a single blow, and while also engaged with Mace Windu, slew Kit Fisto moments later.[9]

Many years later, Palpatine, in one of his clone bodies, engaged and defeated Luke Skywalker in a one-on-one lightsaber duel in his clone labs on Byss. He was ambidextrous and could change his fighting style at a whim—keeping his opponents unsure of what his next move would be. A master of every form of lightsaber combat and stances, Sidious drew his opponents in, fighting less than his true capability, and then striking the fatal blow when his opponents thought they had the better of him. When fighting at full strength, the Sith Lord was a terrifying opponent.

During his assassination of the Gran Protectorate, the speed and ferocity of his technique was so great that it appeared as though his victims were dispatched by a phantom.
Sidious had an extremely aggressive dueling style and augmented his swordplay by using Force speed, which allowed him to defeat three experienced Jedi Masters with very little effort. His brutal fighting style allowed him to overwhelm Luke Skywalker during their first duel and Skywalker only barely defeated him during their second. In fact, the only people known to have defeated him in a lightsaber duel were Mace Windu on Coruscant,[9] and Luke Skywalker aboard the Eclipse.


Force Powers

Sidious demonstrates his prowess at telekinesis during his battle with Yoda.
In addition to his lightsaber combat skills, Darth Sidious was considered to be one of the greatest Force users of all time, described as a "Black hole of the Dark Side."[18]

Palpatine was a master of Force lightning and was known to use this both as a lethal attack, and as a way of torturing his enemies.[3] In addition, he could use this power to light up the surface of a an entire planet.[127] He was also extremely skilled with telekinesis; during his battle with Yoda, he levitated several Senate pods simultaneously, including the one he was standing on, with incredible dexterity and precision.[9]

Likewise, he was skilled enough with telekinesis that he was also able to remove Luke Skywalker's restraints while barely even lifting his finger when meeting face to face on the Death star.[3] Sidious was a master of Force speed, implementing it into his fighting style and allowing him to move so quickly that his opponents would often find themselves unable to react in time.[18] Darth Sidious also possessed the power of Force Flight.[88] After the first decade of his apprenticeship under Darth Plagueis, Palpatine possessed an exceedingly feral usage of Force rage, such as when he assassinated the Gran Protectorate.

Sidious was also the only known being capable of producing a Force storm of his own power, a dark side technique which he himself discovered. Using his anger and his will, Palpatine was able to rip the space-time continuum and create a hyperspace wormhole. It should be noted that even though he claimed to be able to conjure a storm simply by willing it, by his own admission he was not able to fully control it. By 10 ABY, however, the Emperor believed himself fully capable of controlling a Force storm, and it took Luke and Leia's combined efforts through the light side to turn his dark side creation against him.[128]

Another very dangerous and advanced Force technique utilized by the Emperor was the ability to use the Force to transfer his essence, as well as the essences of others, which he used to survive death on at least two occasions.[4] He had a supply of clone bodies ready to house his spirit until the last one succumbed to his own corrupting power and the sabotage of his subordinates.[129] He also, when taking over a host's body, overwrote the soul and personality of the being to fully dominate over it. He used this power not only as a pathway to immortality, but also as a particularly cruel and sadistic form of torture; it is known that he killed and resurrected Imperial engineer Bevel Lemelisk seven times as punishment for the destruction of the first and second Death Stars.[13]

Among the Emperor's powers was the ability to channel the collective life essences of billions to sustain himself and his Dark Side Adepts; his victims would live in a dream-like state while his own power grew. The entire population of Byss lived under this spell until the planet's destruction by the Galaxy Gun.[130] It was mentioned by Luke Skywalker that the Emperor's very voice had a hypnotic lull to it whenever he was outwardly projecting his dark side Force powers. Darth Sidious was highly adept at foreseeing the future, often utilizing the power to see his plots to fruition, ensuring that all would proceed as he had envisioned.[3] Furthermore, Sidious was a master of Force stealth, able to hide his dark nature from the Jedi Order for many years before allowing himself to be discovered. Sidious was so powerful in the dark side that he was able to cloud the Jedi's vision, making it exceedingly difficult to predict future events.[8]

Upon spending decades immersing himself in the many facets of the Force, it was believed that Palpatine had a mastery over all known powers, previously unknown powers, and could create new abilities on a whim.[115] By the time of his final death, he had become a nexus of the dark side capable of tearing apart the fabric of space.[128]

I paragraphed it to make it more readable. Palps is the most powerful Sith Lord Ever.

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Ruliya
02.24.2012 , 11:55 PM | #207
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
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See from what I read in the book, the time frame is much shorter than you say. Hell
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Rayla_Felana
02.24.2012 , 11:57 PM | #208
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See from what I read in the book, the time frame is much shorter than you say. Hell
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BrandonSM
02.24.2012 , 11:57 PM | #209
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See from what I read in the book, the time frame is much shorter than you say. Hell
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1000 years before that.

Also, I have a good site recommendation for you. That I think you would like instead of reading the books Wookieepedia.com

Hell I use it more than I use the actual books.

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Ruliya
02.24.2012 , 11:58 PM | #210
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I paragraphed it to make it more readable. Palps is the most powerful Sith Lord Ever.
After many fights, I feel here is where we draw a line.

The title of the thread is "Most Powerful Jedi of all time!"

So all Sith lose here! Regardless.

Edit: To Rayla and Brandon: I double checked and agree. My apologies, I misread. You are correct.