Bioware Let the Players Help you

Yep your dream MMO - no one else playing. It's going exactly as planned

Of course there is. Jesus, dude.

Hate to break it to you, but most players wont up and quit if they dont get add-ons. The ones that have been whining in the forums might but thats a TINY minority of the playerbase.

No, they're going to quit for a million other reasons. Add-on functionality would probably salvage a significant portion, actually.

Same reason why they are ignoring the problems with resolve. They are doing the same thing that they did in Warhammer. I bet we dont know half the stuff thats going on over at BW. Hell half the dev team might just be fired like they did to Mythic.

When your customer base asks for something over and over and it goes on ignored you lose the majority of that base. Just saying because I have seen it before

Ahh the voice of logic...there you are.

You know, if you're gonna switch argument topics you might let the other person know instead of just assuming I can read your mind.

I said we'd be happy that the few people who wanted add-ons left cuz they didnt get them, and you came back with everybody will leave. Now you say they won't leave because of the lack of add-ons, but for other reasons.

Since when was this a discussion about anything OTHER than add-ons?

People like you amaze me you will whine for your easy mode crutches and when your theories are shot full of holes you pronounce how the game is fail and everyone is going to leave anyway.

This is why Bioware will not listen to you and this is why you actually help the anti mod community. Bioware see's the type of players that are demanding this and it isn't the community they want.

MMOs are built on putting a carrot on the end of a long stick. A well-run MMO does everything in its power to maintain the fairness of the stick, while understanding that players are going to whine that they want the carrot.

That's a game working as it should, the players will always want the carrot, and as the designer you have to realize its important to only give the player the carrot in reasonable doses. Give them the entire carrot, and they'll eat the thing in one go then turn around complain that they're bored with the stick.

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What does that have to do with add-ons? Those players aren't going anywhere. They never will, because they're chasing after the same carrot. Their cries for "add-ons" are really a cry for the WoW-crutches: Quest helpers, Auctioneers, Boss Mods, DPS Rotation Managers and modified Raid Frames that dumb down healing. They're no different from the people who want a shorter stick, and as a designer, Bioware has to do the smart thing: ignore them.

As long as people are complaining, it means they're chasing your carrot, and that is a *good sign*. When the complaints *stop*, that's when your game has died. How often do you see people still complaining about FF XIV, a game that is literally bugged to the point where you *cannot log in and play it*? Never. Because no one plays FF XIV. Complaints are like people sitting in a 3 hour line at a theme park - they're an indication that you've created something where the demand is on your side.

Exactly, they just want the game to run it's self so they don't have to learn to play

I know some people want addons for differant reasons, seriously, like for RP and or keeping track of crafting... Not haveing the addons isn't going to stop people from those activities any more than it will stop people from doing your raiding and stuff. I think this game is easy enough as it is.

As for not understanding why people want Addons, nope I realy don't understand why people can't play a game just becuase they can't bot thier skills.

On the Viral note... we've come a long way from needing exe files for trojans and worms, heck in the 90s we had to worry about them being embedded in JPGs that we would get in the temp files just by browsing (personal experiance with this one). Anyone who still thinks they even have to download something on purpose to get a trojan these days is pretty far behind I don't even pretend to be very computer litterate but I know better than to talk down to people who might know more than me.

Edit: P.S. Thank you Leathality or whatever your name was, after reading enough of your posts I've decided to make the rest of my future vists to these forums more pleasant.