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JediElf

02.24.2012 , 11:18 PM \| #21
I'd like to see people get creative,and artistic with the UI mods. Enough of the ones that just squish everything down, lets make a Jawa themed UI mod.

Lethality

02.24.2012 , 11:24 PM \| #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn ummm yeah http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1531763409 http://www.wowace.com/announcements/...orldofwar-net/ http://vnboards.ign.com/wow_ui_custo.../101126096/p1/ I can keep going there is like seven pages just on Google alone. Add-ons can not carry trojans. CAN NOT. They are not excutables, and that is one of the reasons... of course that's just a problem for the Windows suckers anyway.
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subrosian

02.24.2012 , 11:25 PM \| #23
NO. NO. NO. The day outside mods come to this game I WILL QUIT. Mods ruined WoW. Every encounter started being built around the idea that you would have a boss meter telling you where to stand and what to do. The auction house was flooded with bots who repost 1 copper lower than you the second you put an item up for auction. And that's not even getting into all of the quest helpers that shortcut leveling, the PVP mods that have completely destroyed balance by telling people which target to kill (Healers Must Die) and all of the garbage "ability helpers" that play player's rotations for them. Oh and because this is literally the only rebuttal people ever have, no I'm not some baddie: seriously, mods are THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN TO AN MMO. - And no, they can never be "optional", as soon as there is a tool that makes some part of the game easier, you are forced to take it. That means that suddenly there isn't a level playing field anymore. The players who can get their hands on a mod that breaks the game (and there will ALWAYS be a mod that does something unintended) get an advantage until it is patched away. Again and again, the people who cheat, exploit and utilize these 3rd party mods are given an advantage, while everyone else is forced to use the mods because they increase player power.
subrosian <Epitome> epitomeraiding.com

Jett-Rinn

02.24.2012 , 11:33 PM \| #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Lethality Add-ons can not carry trojans. CAN NOT. They are not excutables, and that is one of the reasons... of course that's just a problem for the Windows suckers anyway. Oh god....dude do you really not understand that the executable need not be in the addon itself? Barring that do you know how easy it is to place a network worm in a addon? And those don't discriminate so even you Penguin heads can be affected. Why is it that every kid that downloads a red-hat distro thinks he's Neo or some crap?
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

reaperkeepet

02.24.2012 , 11:38 PM \| #25
Gonna post in this thread to be on the second page... This thread will be a explosion of comments.
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth Baras The cake is a lie, there is only pie, through pie I gain calories, through calories I gain fat, through fat my belt is broken, the recliner shal free me...

Lethality

02.24.2012 , 11:38 PM \| #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn Oh god....dude do you really not understand that the executable need not be in the addon itself? Barring that do you know how easy it is to place a network worm in a addon? And those don't discriminate so even you Penguin heads can be affected. Why is it that every kid that downloads a red-hat distro thinks he's Neo or some crap? It's the users fault if they download executables and use them to manage or install add-ons. Idiots will be idiots. Let them suffer... we shouldn't have to forsake a critical feature of the game to protect them from themselves. So, again... add-ns CAN NOT carry a trojan. I'm not going to get into computer security with you because there's nothing good to say about Windows, and I don't think you have a clue about *nix and Mac.
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Jett-Rinn

02.24.2012 , 11:41 PM \| #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Lethality It's the users fault if they download executables and use them to manage or install add-ons. Idiots will be idiots. Let them suffer... we shouldn't have to forsake a critical feature of the game to protect them from themselves. So, again... add-ns CAN NOT carry a trojan. I'm not going to get into computer security with you because there's nothing good to say about Windows, and I don't think you have a clue about *nix and Mac. Wow your logic is truly airtight. And you think wrong..but that's obvious Thank you; folks like you help the anti mod group more than you know.
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

Lethality

02.24.2012 , 11:44 PM \| #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn Wow your logic is truly airtight. And you think wrong..but that's obvious Thank you; folks like you help the anti mod group more than you know. And folks like you will be standing in a very lonely fleet wondering where everyone went. Also, you're going to be quite surprised this year.... I guarantee it.
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Akirator

02.24.2012 , 11:46 PM \| #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Lethality And folks like you will be standing in a very lonely fleet wondering where everyone went. Or we'll be in fleet having a party to celebrate to minority of deadwood that left because they couldnt get their precious add-ons.
Computer specs If somebody was standing on a street corner screaming "This town sucks, I'm moving!" you'd think he was crazy, right? I quit threads are the same thing.

subrosian

02.24.2012 , 11:47 PM \| #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn Oh god....dude do you really not understand that the executable need not be in the addon itself? Barring that do you know how easy it is to place a network worm in a addon? And those don't discriminate so even you Penguin heads can be affected. Why is it that every kid that downloads a red-hat distro thinks he's Neo or some crap? I'd be impressed if they ran actual distros. The average 'nix user these days is on Ubuntu though, which essentially installs itself and comes with an app store. We're a long way from the heady days of the late-90s when you had to code your own drivers to get half of your stuff to work, and the point where you turned on the machine and got GNOME running (complete with Matrix desktop background) you were already set on overclocking on liquid nitrogen because having a functional computer wasn't enough. Add-ons can contain trojans. You do not need an executable, as WoW loads them, it's essentially fairly easy to modify how WoW functions regardless of OS and do some pretty nasty things to your machine. It's also possible to deliver a trojan in parts, so that the add-on itself may simply set you up to be hit by other pieces of the puzzle down the road. - Add-ons also create security loopholes in the MMO in two ways. First, they encourage users to use 3rd party websites. That's bad news as the average person thinks they're far more computer literate than they are. It's not particularly hard to misdirect your launcher and steal your account information... it literally happens all the time in WoW, they send a fake email to reset your password, then attempt to log into your account multiple times, causing it to get locked. When you click the link to fix your password - bam - your account is stolen. And where do they get your account email? Bingo, 3rd party websites. The second security loophole is that it opens the game to unintended uses of mod functions. It's not particularly hard to BOT in WoW, and part of the reason is that 3rd party add-ons enable it. There is an add-on that is used to multibox in WoW that enables you to bot hundreds, if not thousands, of accounts on a single machine. And no, there's no way to prevent an add-on from doing that. As soon as you give the functionality needed for something as simple as a DPS meter, boss mod or user-created map, you have all given the functionality for auction bots, leveling bots, and PVP exploits (such as displaying information that is not intended to be known to the user)
subrosian <Epitome> epitomeraiding.com

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