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2/22/2012 -> Can we get an update on where the Combat Log is?

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2/22/2012 -> Can we get an update on where the Combat Log is?
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Forsbacka
02.24.2012 , 10:36 PM | #841
Quote: Originally Posted by JediElf View Post
That's a complete exaggeration. I've never played an MMO, where I get a full set of purple, for just logging in. Not once has that ever happened.

Name one game, where that is true.

Well ToR operations on all difficulty levels are pretty close to it, just go raiding whatever peoplein guild, clear nightmare modes in a evening get purple pixels. There was supposed to be 3 difficulty levels to cater for all kinda raiders, but there is only one.

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JediElf
02.24.2012 , 10:40 PM | #842
Quote: Originally Posted by Forsbacka View Post
Well ToR operations on all difficulty levels are pretty close to it, just go raiding whatever peoplein guild, clear nightmare modes in a evening get purple pixels. There was supposed to be 3 difficulty levels to cater for all kinda raiders, but there is only one.
I'm not even off of Hutta yet.

if it makes you feel any better, I may never get to see those 'free' purple pixles. I play with a dear, life long friend, and i'm a little shy of playing with anyone else....it's just the two of us.

Are you happy now?

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Perkunas
02.24.2012 , 10:43 PM | #843
Quote: Originally Posted by JediElf View Post
Actually I have, and never once was I given a full set of gear when my que come up. Also for some players those heroics are not 'facerolls', as they may be for a 'pro raider' such as yourself.

People play at different levels in MMOs, and it's a balancing act for devs to keep everyone happy. it's not easy, but it's made easier when gamers respect each others play styles. When raiders sneer and look down upon normal gamers, it's not good for the community, and for the health of the game.

People play for there own reasons, not for the reasons of other people.

Balance is what we need.
You don't hand out current raid tier loot for doing 5-man content. The reason gear score came into being was because if you weren't geared to the teeth in Wrath you were either not trying or just freshly capped. People had to weed out the folks in lesser gear from their faceroll pugs because they didn't want to carry people.
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JediElf
02.24.2012 , 10:45 PM | #844
Never mind...I'm done with this....time to move on....

I'll just enjoy the game as I see fit. I have faith that the devs will stear the game in the right direction, and with consideration for all gamers, at all levels.

As for some of you, I'm not sure what to say, but I hope that some day you find what your looking for....

May the force be with you.

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Achraya
02.24.2012 , 10:52 PM | #845
Quote: Originally Posted by Chewpaco View Post
Meters, Logs and Addons are NOT in the future of gaming, sorry!

A title being released in May - Tera, which has a huge commercial budget and a subscription based model has further developed it. You don't tab a target.

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Tera has combat logs and it has a system in place where you can set up your abilties to be used in a certain order by hitting a hotkey. For example my Sorc will use painful trap then hit 4 to use my flame pillar then hit 4 again to jump back. It's basically an interactive macro. Soooo....I guess the future is combat logs and interactive macros?

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Forsbacka
02.24.2012 , 10:59 PM | #846
Quote: Originally Posted by JediElf View Post
I'm not even off of Hutta yet.

if it makes you feel any better, I may never get to see those 'free' purple pixles. I play with a dear, life long friend, and i'm a little shy of playing with anyone else....it's just the two of us.

Are you happy now?
Yeah, well this thread aint really aimed for you then.

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spcdog
02.24.2012 , 11:01 PM | #847
Quote: Originally Posted by Perkunas View Post
You don't hand out current raid tier loot for doing 5-man content. The reason gear score came into being was because if you weren't geared to the teeth in Wrath you were either not trying or just freshly capped. People had to weed out the folks in lesser gear from their faceroll pugs because they didn't want to carry people.
But damage meters -- and then eventually the armory/gearscore -- are the entire reason they had to start handing out welfare epics in WoW. People who used to have a chance at experiencing the content were being systematically blocked from it unless they had high-end gear. It's a vicious cycle that this game is doomed to repeat if the devs don't learn something from it.

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Forsbacka
02.24.2012 , 11:03 PM | #848
Quote: Originally Posted by Achraya View Post
Tera has combat logs and it has a system in place where you can set up your abilties to be used in a certain order by hitting a hotkey. For example my Sorc will use painful trap then hit 4 to use my flame pillar then hit 4 again to jump back. It's basically an interactive macro. Soooo....I guess the future is combat logs and interactive macros?
So will GW2. Maybe he lives further in the future, i mean he raided 40 years ago as he said earlier so why not 40 years in future also and tell us how games are gonna be then.

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reaperkeepet
02.24.2012 , 11:05 PM | #849
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WE ARE?!
What is up with Bass? Unrpofessional.
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Forsbacka
02.24.2012 , 11:08 PM | #850
Quote: Originally Posted by spcdog View Post
But damage meters -- and then eventually the armory/gearscore -- are the entire reason they had to start handing out welfare epics in WoW. People who used to have a chance at experiencing the content were being systematically blocked from it unless they had high-end gear. It's a vicious cycle that this game is doomed to repeat if the devs don't learn something from it.
Not really, it was due other issues. Combat logs and meters has been in almost every MMORPG game for last 15 years in a form or another and will continue to do so, it didnt lead into those problems in other games either.

WoW had dmg meters in molten core already so why it got miss used by some people in WoTLK was due other issues. Gearscore was a good tool to see gear potential fast on people when forming pug raids, reason why it was missused was cause there shoulndt have been pug raids in the first place, when you give those tools to bad nonraiders, they might blow in the face.