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Datacron difficulty


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Shaz
02.24.2012 , 09:02 PM | #31
I have cursed my sub-par Mario skills a few times on Datacrons, but it pales in comparison to the words my husband uses.

A few times, we've gone to get a Datacron, and I have maybe few stumbles before I get mine...but my husband? An hour later he's still cursing before finally slamming the keyboard and getting up and storming out of the room.

Then I go, sit in his chair, and try to do what I just did with much less trouble on my own character.

But for his character...instead of jumping, his character stumbles. Or skip-hops off an edge. Or flat-out falls. I'm doing the exact same thing that worked for my character, but it's just not WORKING for his.


Eventually one of us works it out, but it's a head scratcher. We've more or less the exact same computers (home built from identical parts except for sound cards and he has an extra SSD), using the same internet connection (and we don't have lag issues). It's just weird.

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Aecheon
02.24.2012 , 09:18 PM | #32
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a friend of mine just quit the game because of the difficulty in getting datacrons.
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Tgpo
02.24.2012 , 09:23 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Cyberwraith View Post
You keep saying things like easier, but where in my post am I asking for it to be made easy? I'm asking for the jump mechanics to be fixed, or for a different mechanic to be put into place that doesn't rely on a buggy system. You're so focused on being angry at people that want things easy that you're projecting that mentality on something that has nothing to do with it.

Listen Freud, you mentioned it in the very first line "A friend of mine just quit the game because of the difficulty in getting datacrons"

Call me crazy but the antonym for difficult is what? I'm not interested in your reasons for why it's such, it is still possible to complete, it's just not meant to be easy.

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Evilidea
02.24.2012 , 09:24 PM | #34
Finding Datacrons without the guides is difficult, but the actual jumping and all that to get to 1 once you know which path to take is not hard. To rage quit over this tells me you should not play video games.

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Denskoo
02.24.2012 , 09:26 PM | #35
99% of the time, turning off Sprint makes the jumping significantly easier. Personally I like that not all of the datacrons are super easy to get. I like having at least a bit of challenge and would find it extremely disappointing if they were all simple to pick up.

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Kunra
02.24.2012 , 09:55 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Cyberwraith View Post
A friend of mine just quit the game because of the difficulty in getting datacrons. I think that's a poor reason to quit, but I can definitely see his frustration. Getting datacrons has nothing whatsoever to do with skill, but only a combination of luck, good framerate, and no lag. I have given up on trying to get datacrons at all because of this. I can understand that they were supposed to be difficult to get to, but when the difficulty is caused by terrible jump design and by having even the slightest bit of lag it's incredibly annoying. On a single player game that requires no internet connection having to make difficult jumps is not an issue, but with an online game it turns it into a purely luck based challenge.

It's sad that such a small, optional thing can be such a huge disappointment, but it is. Hopefully this can be changed in the future.
Your friend is not alone and it's cost this game Subs. Just like you, I am still playing but have stopped trying to get Datacrons. I have posted about this before and got Flamed for it.

Honestly, I dont actually believe most of the folks who say they have gotten them all. I have spent hours watching people try to get some Datacrons on Nar Shadaa. I just dont see this happening dozens of times over.

Datacrons, where Jumping is involved, was a stupid game design. All the others, I have no problem with.

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Cyberwraith
02.24.2012 , 09:57 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Tgpo View Post
Listen Freud, you mentioned it in the very first line "A friend of mine just quit the game because of the difficulty in getting datacrons"

Call me crazy but the antonym for difficult is what? I'm not interested in your reasons for why it's such, it is still possible to complete, it's just not meant to be easy.
It's not the level of difficulty, it's the reason for the difficulty that is the problem. I'm not sure how I can be any more clear than that. Are you really not understanding the distinction, or are you being deliberately obtuse?

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Kunra
02.24.2012 , 09:59 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Cyberwraith View Post
It's not the level of difficulty, it's the reason for the difficulty that is the problem. I'm not sure how I can be any more clear than that. Are you really not understanding the distinction, or are you being deliberately obtuse?
Cyber, your dealing with folks who argue for the sake of arguing. Not worth the fight.

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Cyberwraith
02.24.2012 , 10:01 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by IIII-IIII-IIII View Post
I'm a troll for calling a duck a duck? Ok...

Yes, I'm saying that people should not be able to do everything in the game. Why should I be able to experience something if I have less: skill, time or general effort?

Everyone has their own limitations in some capacity. Not all gamers are created equal, so to speak. There's no shame, sadness or frustration with acknowledging that. There is, however, entitlement issues with ignoring this simple premise though and quitting out of frustration when:


In case you aren't following, I acknowledge SWTOR has it's fair share of bugs that can be frustrating. Your friend, however, has entitlement issues based on the description provided...not mine.
No, you're a troll for focusing on trying to make personal attacks instead of actually discussing the topic. Simple.

Wanting to be able to play a game that does not have poor game mechanics and is free of bugs now means somebody has a sense of entitlement? Good to know.

The problem here has nothing to do with "skill, time, or general effort." It has to do with a buggy system that multiple people are having a problem with.

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JagaLok
02.24.2012 , 10:03 PM | #40
Google "datacrons" and go to the Starwar spy page. There you can find all the detacron locations and how to get there.