Datacron difficulty

Who said anything about being hardcore? As for completionist, it just means you want to see and experience all aspects of something. What does that have to do with things being easy and dumbed down? You seem to have a personal issue about people and want to project that on everybody. In either case, you're focusing on a tangential issue instead of focusing on the issue at hand. The mechanics required to get datacrons are poorly designed and buggy, and this causes frustration.

Oh, you're right. He should be able to do EVERYTHING in EVERY game............or he'll quit.

Ha, a "completionist" means entitled and spoiled now? Got it.

How exactly are datacrons hard to get?

I mean, i can see the balloon one in Tatooine being unrealistically difficult to achieve, but unrealistic difficulties are great in games like this, it gives for something to be jealous over and wish you could achieve, this is key to mmo's.

It's not like you have to do them at all, they give little reward that actually makes a difference in the long run, purely for the challenge of collecting.

Quitting over a thing like that is pretty sad as well, I don't know why he would get so upset over such a trivial and optional side hobby.

Actually, you couldn't be further from the truth. But there's nothing anybody could say that would convince you differently. And I think the words you are looking for are reeks and a part.

What my friend (and I) are asking for is a system where either the jumps work properly and rationally, or a system that doesn't require the jumps and instead presents a different challenge that's not dependent on a poor game mechanic. I don't want no challenge, I just want a challenge that doesn't depend on luck to the exclusion of skill.

I see, obvious troll is obvious....

Are you saying that people should not be able to do everything in a game? Why put it in if it's not meant to be done?

Anyhow, it's obvious that you're just trolling at this point, so I'll quit trying.

No, you're wreaking havoc on this thread!

You certainly wont change my mind, while I do admit this game has a number of bugs the answer isn't to make it easier. Accept the fact that there are going to be things in life that will be beyond your reach.

FYI: Grammar policing a post written in 30 secs makes your point even more important.

You keep saying things like easier, but where in my post am I asking for it to be made easy? I'm asking for the jump mechanics to be fixed, or for a different mechanic to be put into place that doesn't rely on a buggy system. You're so focused on being angry at people that want things easy that you're projecting that mentality on something that has nothing to do with it.

MMORPG devs need to be aware of latency when they design things like datacron.
In Rift, there were some puzzles that are totally undoable due to lack of consideration on lateency and they fixed it. The triple jump in Nar Shaadaa reminds me of that and I guess there are also other datacrons that need even more precise timing. It is not about your skill anymore, it is more about luck that you get the exact lag calculated and it matches your jump at that exact moment. You thought you hit at the right moment but instead the server said you are late and let you fall without jumping.

Although it is challenging but if you still fail after hours of challenge, it is hundred times of frustration.

Call me weird but I actually like things in a game that are challenging. Wether by mechanics or by design... the fact that some ppl can jump fine and others can't jump... should tell you something.

I'm a troll for calling a duck a duck? Ok...

Yes, I'm saying that people should not be able to do everything in the game. Why should I be able to experience something if I have less: skill, time or general effort?

Everyone has their own limitations in some capacity. Not all gamers are created equal, so to speak. There's no shame, sadness or frustration with acknowledging that. There is, however, entitlement issues with ignoring this simple premise though and quitting out of frustration when:
In case you aren't following, I acknowledge SWTOR has it's fair share of bugs that can be frustrating. Your friend, however, has entitlement issues based on the description provided...not mine.