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Any damage should break any CC! Balance the game Bioware

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Any damage should break any CC! Balance the game Bioware

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dschlan
02.24.2012 , 08:00 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Metalmac View Post
Not since they nerfed the Scrapper 3 times.
1. Lowered Burst to a sad state. But is was over powered, the 20% extra was over nerf.
2. They again nerfed output when they nerfed Surg our main stat.
3. They again nerfed output with what they called "Adjustments".

So no the Scrapper is no longer a counter to the Sorc any more we run out of juice and get CCed to death as we were nerfed into the dirt.
Sorry your class got too hard for you bro. I know plenty of Scoundrels/Ops who still tear most players apart. Your burst got nerfed (btw Surge nerf DID hit everyone, that point is moot), but you can chain CC now, which is equally good. You can still burst if you aren't in lvl 45 greens...again, sorry your class isn't as faceroll anymore and that you might actually have to learn to play.

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Maleficium
02.24.2012 , 08:02 PM | #42
I think some people need to L2P

this watchmen makes me want to play a watchmen (also his commentary on tracer missle is amazing)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egokP7aH-nQ


This is a POST SURGE NERF SCOUNDREL/OP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjSsuoVZ4NE


Seriously people need to L2P

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dschlan
02.24.2012 , 08:04 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Maleficium View Post
I think some people need to L2P

this watchmen makes me want to play a watchmen (also his commentary on tracer missle is amazing)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egokP7aH-nQ


This is a POST SURGE NERF SCOUNDREL/OP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjSsuoVZ4NE


Seriously people need to L2P
Yay! Another voice of reason!

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Maleficium
02.24.2012 , 08:06 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by dschlan View Post
Yay! Another voice of reason!
I like the part on the scoundrel pvp vid where he puts little comments on what hes doing

like


"positioning for knockback"


Seriously how many of these whingers ever take the meta aspect of the game into account.

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dschlan
02.24.2012 , 08:08 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Maleficium View Post
I like the part on the scoundrel pvp vid where he puts little comments on what hes doing

like


"positioning for knockback"


Seriously how many of these whingers ever take the meta aspect of the game into account.
Apparently like .001% or some such

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Metalmac
02.24.2012 , 08:13 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by dschlan View Post
Sorry your class got too hard for you bro. I know plenty of Scoundrels/Ops who still tear most players apart. Your burst got nerfed (btw Surge nerf DID hit everyone, that point is moot), but you can chain CC now, which is equally good. You can still burst if you aren't in lvl 45 greens...again, sorry your class isn't as faceroll anymore and that you might actually have to learn to play.
Surg is not a moot point if did not affect many class including not much of a effect on Sorc.

On the other hand it is our main stat as a burst class, so yea more then a little moot point.

And no I am not in greens nor was the Scrapper ever a faceroll class as it requires more skill then Tracer Missile, Tracer Missile, Tracer Missile...

We are not a 1 button class like many are. Much more planing and setup to do any damage.

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Maleficium
02.24.2012 , 08:16 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Metalmac View Post
Surg is not a moot point if did not affect many class including not much of a effect on Sorc.

On the other hand it is our main stat as a burst class, so yea more then a little moot point.

And no I am not in greens nor was the Scrapper ever a faceroll class as it requires more skill then Tracer Missile, Tracer Missile, Tracer Missile...

We are not a 1 button class like many are. Much more planing and setup to do any damage.
Dear Sir

Just watch the scoundrel pvp video I linked earlier. He seems to have no problem what so ever taking people on 1v1 1v2 and even 1v3. The class still has tons of burst. Also when played skillfully the class can still do what it was designed to do. Be a hard counter to sorcs and get in take the kill and bail right out.

Also as a sage I can assure you that surge was also a major nerf to me. In my healing gear i went from 35% crit 90% surge to 35% crit 65% surge. I experienced almost a similar effect for my dps specs (dont forget that dots can crit so are affected by surge.)

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dschlan
02.24.2012 , 08:17 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Metalmac View Post
Surg is not a moot point if did not affect many class including not much of a effect on Sorc.

On the other hand it is our main stat as a burst class, so yea more then a little moot point.

And no I am not in greens nor was the Scrapper ever a faceroll class as it requires more skill then Tracer Missile, Tracer Missile, Tracer Missile...

We are not a 1 button class like many are. Much more planing and setup to do any damage.
Oh, sorry, a 2 button class. And Surge is a primary stat for other classes too, such as Sentinel. It isn't just you.

Seriously, Ops were faceroll before, Scoundrels in my guild were complaining that it was TOO easy. As for positioning...stealth...I heard that makes positioning easy. Again, sorry that your class has gone above your skill/intelligence. I recommend Runescape as a suitable alternative.

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jcyrus
02.24.2012 , 08:18 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Saereth_Darklighter View Post
I'm really getting sick of this. My SM battlemaster doesnt get a CC that allows me too do my full damage without it breaking the CC. Now on the other hand an Inquistor gets to CC and do damage all day long and I can do nothing but take it. Tell me how thats fair in any way Bioware?
Rather than making all CC break on damage, what they need to do is make damage taken while stunned increase your Resolve.

That prevents the stunlock deaths that are too frequent for a game that wasn't meant to have stunlock mechanics.
1 1 1
Fweooo!*BOOM*
Fweooo!*BOOM*
Fweooo!*BOOM*

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Maleficium
02.24.2012 , 08:21 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by dschlan View Post
Oh, sorry, a 2 button class. And Surge is a primary stat for other classes too. It isn't just you. Seriously, Ops were faceroll before, Scoundrels in my guild were complaining that it was TOO easy. As for positioning...stealth...I heard that makes positioning easy. Again, sorry that your class has gone above your skill/intelligence. I recommend Runescape as a suitable alternative.
My scoundrel friend that I pvp with was predicting a nerf before it even happened. When we first started pvping at 50 we used to laugh while we were playing Civil war. All he would do was go over there jump anyone (he really liked being able to kill jugs during the initial stun) and kill them. If there was more than 1 person then he would take his kill and run away killing more people while I dumped heals into him.

The OP/Scoundrel was designed to be a stealth class that needed to pick and choose targets not run around getting free kills all nimbly bimbly.