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Sorcs and Sages need 2 Stances so they cannot Heal and DPS at the same time.

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Sorcs and Sages need 2 Stances so they cannot Heal and DPS at the same time.

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Crunchyblack
02.24.2012 , 06:50 PM | #331
Rather than learning how to play, learning the opposing classes weaknesses and using the tools given to you to over come them...you want a developer to program your problem out of the game.

You know on my sorc...its baffling why i never get interrupted during any of my long cast time skills...well some times i do.

Also..on my "gimped" as the community calls them, marauder...all i do is farm sorc/sages in pvp. Apparently the most OP pvp class in game is quite easily killed by the least OP class in game...funny how that works.

Im all for blocking heals...or making any heals a specced talent...or whatever you want to do to block hybrid play...but at least make them more complex...without those options the class is pretty boring and easy. Then we can move on to the next class that you are not playing that is proving a challange to defeat in pvp...

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Lucinn
02.24.2012 , 06:58 PM | #332
I agree with the op,, I have seen sorc/sages with over 300k damage and 200k heals. That should never happen. Besides the fact that healing is op in this game, they get to do great damage also? I don't get it. I also don't get why that same class would be the fastest in the game and have the most cc. I said the same thing in beta for the past year.

I guess bw thinks it's ok while they bleed subs and don't know why. My server is at light pop almost all the time when we use to have a q to log on. Only 50 people on the fleet today when it use to be 280 maybe it's time bw starts to listen to some of these people.

BW had no problem nerfing the hybird spec for assassins, why not sorc/sages?

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hkelias
02.24.2012 , 07:03 PM | #333
Quote: Originally Posted by RedMix View Post
Flat out prevent them from casting heals/shield while in DPS stance or make them take 2x as long to cast them or something. these Sorcs doing 500k Dmg and Healing at the same time is just ridiculous.

By this logic then a tank should not be able to guard while in a dps stance. Quit qq'ing.

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Drack
02.24.2012 , 07:04 PM | #334
Quote: Originally Posted by Lucinn View Post
I agree with the op,, I have seen sorc/sages with over 300k damage and 200k heals. That should never happen. Besides the fact that healing is op in this game, they get to do great damage also? I don't get it. I also don't get why that same class would be the fastest in the game and have the most cc. I said the same thing in beta for the past year.

I guess bw thinks it's ok while they bleed subs and don't know why. My server is at light pop almost all the time when we use to have a q to log on. Only 50 people on the fleet today when it use to be 280 maybe it's time bw starts to listen to some of these people.

BW had no problem nerfing the hybird spec for assassins, why not sorc/sages?
Because apples arent oranges man. The AC are different, and because one thing works for one class, it does not mean it works for another.

"Why arent sorcs in heavy armor!? Mercs have heavy armor and they can burst dmg better than sorcs, and heal as well! If they can both heal, they should both be in heavy armor!" See what I did there?

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Keldaur
02.24.2012 , 07:06 PM | #335
Quote: Originally Posted by hkelias View Post
By this logic then a tank should not be able to guard while in a dps stance. Quit qq'ing.
They already can't guard if they are not on defensive stance. Quit being dumb.

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Drack
02.24.2012 , 07:09 PM | #336
Quote: Originally Posted by hkelias View Post
By this logic then a tank should not be able to guard while in a dps stance. Quit qq'ing.
Exactly, and it would have to account for alot of classes then. Mercs not being able to heal, same with operatives. No guard on dps classes, no dps on guard classes.

It would ruin the game, really.

I play a sorc battlemaster, and I get wacked plenty by other classes. People are just whining like hell. And ohh, noone ever saw 500K healing and dmg, EVER.

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fungihoujo
02.24.2012 , 07:09 PM | #337
Quote: Originally Posted by Lucinn View Post
I agree with the op,, I have seen sorc/sages with over 300k damage and 200k heals.
I've gotten 300k damage, 80k protection and 14 medals as a level 39 powertech. I've broken 300k damage as both a level 20 sniper and marauder- I broke 200k healing as a level 18 operative who wasn't heal specced.

The numbers only go up with gear.

Grats, you know some sorcs who dot up everyone, throw some aoes, and watch as a healer cancels out all of those mad 2.5k crits from abilities on 15 second CD with an instant heal. Most of the healing is from shields with dpsers anyway- you throw a 3.5k shield on everyone every minute- in ten minutes that's well over 200k, and you know the shield will be used and count because most classes can crit it down in one hit.

It's almost a bit funny that people are trying to hard to encourage people to not heal- I bet these people can be found somewhere else on the forum whining that nobody heals them, yet here they are- asking for healing and damage to be on separate stances.

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Drack
02.24.2012 , 07:10 PM | #338
Quote: Originally Posted by Keldaur View Post
They already can't guard if they are not on defensive stance. Quit being dumb.
Im getting guarded by dps assassins, so umm....

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fungihoujo
02.24.2012 , 07:13 PM | #339
Quote: Originally Posted by Keldaur View Post
They already can't guard if they are not on defensive stance. Quit being dumb.
Taunts are enough to easily get the 10k in one life- frankly, guard actually makes it harder to get that because you'll be dying as you guard, while taunts have no penalty to using.

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Keldaur
02.24.2012 , 07:14 PM | #340
Quote: Originally Posted by Drack View Post
Im getting guarded by dps assassins, so umm....
Because they are switching stances, so ummm...

http://knotor.com/abilities/414440

Costs all their resources tho ;p