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Powertechs the new FOTM overpowerd

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Powertechs the new FOTM overpowerd

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Fidopro
02.24.2012 , 04:28 PM | #71
why would you ever be a pyro merc when you can be a powertech

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Prenavo
02.24.2012 , 04:31 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by prochuvi View Post
plz are u joking right?
because on mine two servers(red eclipse and ahto city) on imp side is it as 40% sorc-30% assassins-10%powertech-10%merc and 10 % others
That was just my personal experience. I spoke for what I was seeing on my server. Yours isn't mine, therefore things are different. Perhaps you missed the point. If your seeing way too many of two or so classes in pvp, then perhaps these classes either need knocked down, or they need to pump up the rest to make them better. This way people won't feel as though they need to play what they think are the only viable choice. It really has nothing to do with imp side or republic much. I was just stating that on my server the pubs tend to gravitate toward 2 classes more than the others. It don't mean that our side won't do the same, it just hasn't happened yet.
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prochuvi
02.24.2012 , 04:32 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by BobaFurz View Post
But it is different if I can do the dmg from range or if I need to get in close combat. Because there is no restricton for range in this game, you dishout the dmg from 0-30m. In my eyes the game favours ranged/hybrid classes, which are actually almost all. Your shadow has at least stealth, other melee classes need to suck in the dmg from range without the option to dishout such high dmg at once, they need to build up rage points. I think they need to fine tuning this.
im agree with you,but the problem isnt only on swtor,every mmorpg have the same problem with melle versus ranged both pvp and pve.
they cant do melles better than ranged on dps because then every raid gonna bring only melles,but if they can dish he same dps then nobody gonna bring melles because ranged need less heals.
so my main is ranged because i knew it before lvl it to 50 that as on every mmorpg ranged is allways better than melle on end game pvp and pve

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tripballs
02.24.2012 , 04:34 PM | #74
Now, as a real BM pyro powertech let me clear this up for everyone. OP is right, and wrong at the same time. Here is how it goes:

Quote: Originally Posted by JediDuckling View Post
plant a fire dot on you
rail shot
rocket punch

dead


run to another target


fire dot
rail shot
rocket punch

dead
This is a lie. Assuming best case scenario:

Incendiary Missile - crits for ~500 when applied
Rail Shot - crits for ~5000
Rocket Punch - crits for ~3000

As you can see that is only ~8500 hp. What OP (being the baddie he is) has failed to list (and how the burst actually works):

This combo is possible only once every 3 mins, in a window of 15 seconds.
Blow your relic, adrenaline, and Explosive Fuel (+25% crit for 15 seconds), all of this can be done in 1 global.

Incendiary Missile - crits for ~500 when applied
Thermal Detonator - crits for ~5000, but takes 3 seconds to detonate, thus dealing damage at the same time as rocket punch
Rail Shot - crits for ~5000
Rocket Punch - crits for ~3000
Add a tick or 2 of the dot for ~500 damage

This adds up to ~14000 hp in 5 globals, which clearly demonstrates the kind of gear that OP has - centurion.

And here comes the part where OP is right - powertech's burst is mad!
Lets take a look at this video:

the target has ~13800 hp, which means it is a fresh lvl 50
the numbers go:
523 - Incendiary Missle, the 'fire dot'
4867 - Rail shot
627 - dot tick
3482 + 4582 - Rocket Punch + Thermal Detonator exploding at the same time.

That adds up to 14081 damage. Same goes for the 2nd guy. Notice - both of them are sorcs in light armor. Now watch the 'amazing OP powertech burst' against a jugger.

Now after you've read all the numbers, here is the video itself (dont forget to read the description):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LZrl...7dbibMoV6PkKdh Btw thats not me in the video.

The moral of the story is:
If you have trash gear, expect to be trashed by people in BM gear.

Oh and by the way:
Quote: Originally Posted by JediDuckling View Post
the ones that actualy know how to pvp
lol, you dont need to 'know how to pvp', you just farm gear, press some buttons and blow your load all over the faces of pesky little newbies like you, OP.

Also, if you are one of those people who think that PvPing in your columi/rakata gear and no expertise is fine, prepare your rectum, because powertechs are coming for you.

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gryhmr
02.24.2012 , 04:36 PM | #75
Powertech is fine. Has no escapes, has 2 things that rely on dots and rail shot procs are luck. Rail Shot also doesn't hit all that hard.

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islander
02.24.2012 , 04:37 PM | #76
oh look, more QQ

See, if I'm Bioware, I know I'm doing PvP class balance reasonably well. Why? Because there is QQ about almost all classes being OP on a given day.

WoW never had this problem, because it was always bad/unbalanced globally. It was the same 3-4 specs out of dozens that were OP and no one else was close. It just depended on what patch you were in.
Then again, Blizzard could never get PvE right, much less PvP.
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jokerxdragon
02.24.2012 , 04:38 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by tripballs View Post
Now after you've read all the numbers, here is the video itself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LZrl...7dbibMoV6PkKdh
I see other videos of PT's/Vanguards hitting this hard, i'm in Cent gear with a Champ rifle, and my crits are more like 2.5k with the lucky 3k on an un-geared 50....does full Champ/BM really provide that big of a boost?

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Gaidax
02.24.2012 , 04:39 PM | #78
Powertech? Overpowered? Not even close... Annoying? For sure! Overpowered? No way!
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Twor
02.24.2012 , 04:41 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by BobaFurz View Post
But not every class can dishout such high dmg from range, range is the point here.
Rocket punch is melee range.

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blackadda
02.24.2012 , 04:42 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Fidopro View Post
why would you ever be a pyro merc when you can be a powertech
Because Pyro Merc has better AOE's and Does everything at 30m range...

Mercs best Rail proc is unload -7.5k dmg, 3 second channel, with 60% chance to proc rail ,30m range.

Powertechs best Rail proc is Rocket punch, instant+1j.5sec GCD, -2.5k 45% chance to proc railshot, 4m range.


Merc has higher burst dmg in fewer GCD's because of Unload and +missile dmg... and add in FUSION+incindiary, which can be cast in 1 GCD if you use TS override and Powersurge to insta cast your fusion.
Youll literally see the fusion missile and incindiary almost stacked on top of eachother... it looks like you just shot twice...which in fact...you did :P

So you go Merc if you like AOE's and long range and Upfront/Spike dmg with less CC and lower dot's, or PT if you like melee and better DOT's and CC..
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