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Ruuprect
02.24.2012 , 01:37 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Zaodon View Post
Not at all.

If DPS on pure DPS-spec sages/sorc is low, how in the hell does it somehow "get better" when you spec LESS for DPS and more for utility?

Sage/Sorc DPS is bad, all specs, all the time, in every situation.

reminder: DPS (damage per second), not "I aoe'd the entire time and topped the scoreboard, lolz oops we lost".
So how do you know that the dps is worse than everyone else? Do you have some experience or a combat log to show this?
Ruprect
Level 50 Sage
Jedi Covenant

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wolveroach
02.24.2012 , 01:38 PM | #62
And what you fail to grasp is that DPS is not the end all/be all. My merc has great DPS WHEN I GET TO USE IT. Most of the time, I am stun locked/interupted and can barely do any damage with almost no ability to escape or stop the stun lock/interupt. At least you have other options. I am either ranged DPS or dogfood with nothing in the middle.

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Teabaker
02.24.2012 , 01:39 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Zaodon View Post
Not at all.

If DPS on pure DPS-spec sages/sorc is low, how in the hell does it somehow "get better" when you spec LESS for DPS and more for utility?

Sage/Sorc DPS is bad, all specs, all the time, in every situation.

reminder: DPS (damage per second), not "I aoe'd the entire time and topped the scoreboard, lolz oops we lost".
Maybe you should check the Talents.

EDIT: That's what so broken about Hybrid. It has the highest DPS, most Utility and Unlimited Force

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Zaodon
02.24.2012 , 01:39 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Ruuprect View Post
So how do you know that the dps is worse than everyone else? Do you have some experience or a combat log to show this?
I have 1 of every class (8 char slots, 8 chars). And played every single one in PvP, a lot.

So, to answer your question, "Experience."

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Organikal
02.24.2012 , 01:40 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Zaodon View Post
Utility cannot take a turret.
Utility cannot plant a bomb.

Only "killing the defender" can accomplish that.

Utility allows us to actually affect the score in only 1 warzone: Huttball. And even then, utiliy isn't all that great at defending against most ball carriers (they have leap, their own stuns, knockbacks, etc. Using utility to defend rarely works in lvl 50 Huttball.)
Last time I checked you were on a TEAM. When did we say you were fighting 1v1? If you think any game can balanced 1v1 you're a moron.

Sorry to burst your bubble but the sage/worc will get nerfed before it gets buffed. That my friend is FACT. You normally can tell what classes are overpowered but the number of players playing it. Check your Fleet next time you're online and tell me the numbers.

Again, I hope this is a troll post because if it isn't... you're bad and have a very wrong idea of that the sorc/sage class is meant to be.

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Ruuprect
02.24.2012 , 01:41 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Zaodon View Post
I have 1 of every class (8 char slots, 8 chars). And played every single one in PvP, a lot.

So, to answer your question, "Experience."
So you have compared the dps side by side with similarly geared players? I dont think you really grasp sustained vs burst damage.
Ruprect
Level 50 Sage
Jedi Covenant

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Organikal
02.24.2012 , 01:45 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Ruuprect View Post
So you have compared the dps side by side with similarly geared players? I dont think you really grasp sustained vs burst damage.
^ This... the OP of this thread is trolling OR does not have his grade 8 certificate. Either way this thread should be closed.

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Zaodon
02.24.2012 , 01:46 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Ruuprect View Post
So you have compared the dps side by side with similarly geared players? I dont think you really grasp sustained vs burst damage.
Without a damage log or damage meter, no one can be sure of anything, of course.

But, if you get into a fight, the duration of that fight is an indicator of DPS.

Sentinel (for example) - fight is quick, enemy dies fast (or kills me fast, either way).

Sage - long, drawn out, kiting, bubbling, DoTs, slow, force speed away, channel, knockback, channel, stun, run away, heal, channel, force lift, run, heal, dot, channel.

i.e. Low DPS.

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EternalFinality
02.24.2012 , 01:46 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by Zaodon View Post
When their CC break is down, so are my stuns/lift. Its called "a wash". If you read above before replying you would not look like a fool now.
Because you are the only person that will ever CC them during the entire warzone. That's why your cooldowns are synchronized!

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pinkfreudHC
02.24.2012 , 01:46 PM | #70
Sorc damage is fine. It's not bursty, but it's steady.

Burst plus our utility would be too much.
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