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Fozy
02.24.2012 , 05:22 AM | #271
Quote: Originally Posted by Chrisbox View Post
lol dont listen to the haters man thats what world pvp is all about, and is it very much alive in this game, people are just to lazy to go find it....even in Ilum.
I agree completely. Get a group of 8 together and go show those imperials what "ambush" means

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Almghty_gir
02.24.2012 , 05:23 AM | #272
KDS (imperial guild) did this on TOFN server, it lasted all of 45 mins before they got wiped by a pug ops group half their size (they were running two full ops groups, all guilded/ventrilo etc).

was fun, but that was just after the headstart anyway. nowadays i think people would rather valorfarm.
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Szadek
02.24.2012 , 05:26 AM | #273
Exile, the Exile From AoC?

If they are the same, I Just lol!

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RobyBaggio
02.24.2012 , 05:34 AM | #274
Quote: Originally Posted by Greyfeld View Post
Here are the problems with the OP's idea of "world pvp":

1. All you're really doing is griefing lower level players. Real pvp takes place between equally geared/leveled players who are pitting their skills against one another.
2. Despite griefing these players, these actions don't actually effect their leveling capabilities. Between warzones and space combat, this really only serves as an inconvenience.
3. Since blocking off the spaceport is only a minor inconvenience for the majority of players on the planet, there's no incentive for higher level players to zone in and try to clear out the attackers.
4. In addition to there being no incentive to clear out the attackers, there are no rewards for engaging in world pvp outside of Ilum, giving most players no reason to participate.
5. Camping the zone-in area kills any chance the opposition may have of putting up a defense, even if they actually wanted to respond to your attack.

You can claim that "real pvpers don't care about rewards" till you're blue in the face, but the fact of the matter is that most people who pvp don't do it for the thrill of the kill. And frankly, if that's all you really cared about, you would go to a level 50 area and pick fights, instead of farming NPCs on a lower level planet that nobody cares about.
You are wrong on all fronts.

I applaud the OP for trying to make this game better than what it actually it is... even though he is forced to do so at Battlemaster.

Here is a post I wrote in which the griefers actually turned into the griefed.

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Takauri
02.24.2012 , 06:20 AM | #275
Quote: Originally Posted by Almghty_gir View Post
KDS (imperial guild) did this on TOFN server, it lasted all of 45 mins before they got wiped by a pug ops group half their size (they were running two full ops groups, all guilded/ventrilo etc).

was fun, but that was just after the headstart anyway. nowadays i think people would rather valorfarm.
lol dream on

KDS had 2 full raids and they were running seperately in different instances.

RK was engaged with one of their raids in one instance and we had a lot of fun back and forth. Their other raid was taking out pugs and wiping the floor with them until enough pugs gathered to push them back (KDS published a full video of this on Youtube).

Eventually KDS brought both raids into that instance and then we came over too to see how much the server can handle - which was the whole point of the excercise in the first place and had been pre-arranged between them and us on the forums before hand for all to see on tofn.eu

As soon as we arrived via the taxi the server fell over and everyone started crashing. At that point we knew how many players the servers could support and discovered that large scale open world pvp can not work in TOR.

It was a good event and I wouldn't mind seeing more if only the game could handle it.
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Werdan
02.24.2012 , 11:33 AM | #276
Quote: Originally Posted by GeorgZoeller View Post
We're seeing an increase in Open World PvP on many servers lately.

That's not too surprising as free form, ad hoc open world pvp tends to attract players who have achieved their immediate endgame goals (e.g. achieving Battlemaster).
It wouldn't surprise me if what you're seeing is an increase in frustrated players going into lowbie zones and griefing them instead of farming (or getting farmed) on Ilum. An increase of "bad" PvP is still "bad" PvP.
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Wattser
02.24.2012 , 11:38 AM | #277
So besides killing the lowbies, you got to pick off the "high" level sith one at a time as they zone in off the transport. Thats as much PvP as going hunting at a petting zoo.

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DosPeros
02.24.2012 , 11:42 AM | #278
Quote: Originally Posted by Wattser View Post
So besides killing the lowbies, you got to pick off the "high" level sith one at a time as they zone in off the transport. Thats as much PvP as going hunting at a petting zoo.
Sounds like Fun!

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JohanGill
02.24.2012 , 11:55 AM | #279
Quote: Originally Posted by Allmightyprom View Post
So tonight, guild Exile, took the sith spaceport on Hoth. We denied the entire planet to the sith for hours and hours. Any sith that came in died fast and could not get away from the base or us. Anyone that had to leave hoth had to use their fleetpass.

This message to you idiots out there saying this game has no openworld pvp....i call BS. Man up...get a couple of ops together and go take an opposite factions spaceport. This is called denial of resource.

We had hours of fun. The sith tried to shake us from the planet, but we took them all out.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9403/hothpvp.png
Interesting idea, just remember not to prevent people's leveling.
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Sykomyke
02.24.2012 , 12:53 PM | #280
Hooray! OP found out how to club baby seals!

Go fight an equally level/equally sized group of Sith then come back. Until then this is all I see:

"Hi, we took over a low level zone, farmed some sub-50's who probably don't pvp at all (or that much), and any actual level 50's that came in got zerg'd. But hey, we should be lauded for our skill because we can camp the "zone in" area!)



Yea...Real PvP my arse.
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