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No Valor Gained - Blioware, i beg you, explain.

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No Valor Gained - Blioware, i beg you, explain.
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Chaosmagistrate
02.23.2012 , 01:20 PM | #51
It's a very odd bug. Me and My Guardian friend would join the same Ilum Ops, land at the same time. And when the Valor Cannon goes off, I would get No Valor gained, but he would still get all 10+ kills.

It does seem to reset given sufficient time of no activity involving kills...So I usually just AFk at the base for five minutes and surf the web, catch up on reddit, and then go back out, rinse and repeat.

It's a highly annoying bug, because when I am in a rush, I will just throw my corpse at the Imps to hopefully reset this. Which is kind of kill trading, but not really.
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Ochad
02.23.2012 , 01:28 PM | #52
Last night I was getting no error messages after going from 36-105 on my weekly. No valor was awarded and there was no message at all.

I would see Not worth any valor and also the "killed too recently" message.

I ran a full 15 minute Huttball match and came back to get no error message on a couple kills. Finally gave up.
"Android hell is a real place... and you will be sent there at the first sign of defiance"

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vekkth
02.24.2012 , 07:11 AM | #53
Just cancelled my sub. 23 days left but i dont think i can be assed to play any more. Was getting No Valor Gained today on the ilum every 2-3 kills, barely could hold myself to wait until me and my wife finished daily, left, and suddenly realize there is nothing left holding me to play the game.

disappointed. I will not continue to support this thread anymore since i doubt i will actually play the game to check if this behavior is still in game, so cheers to everyone. Hope you all enjoying dying every 2-3 kills to get your rank up or finish weekly.

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Daeborn
02.24.2012 , 07:16 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by vekkth View Post
Just cancelled my sub.
Bye...

Oh BTW the Ilum issue with kills not being counted was part of the /stuck exploit. When people died and /stuck to where they died at the kill timer was still running hence when you killed them again you wouldn't get credit. There's a timer on kills...

Shame you didn't bother to read about that exploit being fixed this week. But I am sure you not playing won't make much of a difference anyway.

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islander
02.24.2012 , 01:03 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Drokisannath View Post
You just have to die to reset the counting. (pro system)

So in order to get massive valor / complete quests, the best way is to... kill a group, and then die, and then kill a group again. Oh wait this has a name : Kill trading incentive.
Yeah, on Monday I racked up about 150 kills in Ilum and I simply let myself die at the end of every offensive into the Republic southern base.

I got 5-7 credited kills, let them kill me, rinse repeat.
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vekkth
02.24.2012 , 01:05 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Daeborn View Post
Bye...

Oh BTW the Ilum issue with kills not being counted was part of the /stuck exploit. When people died and /stuck to where they died at the kill timer was still running hence when you killed them again you wouldn't get credit. There's a timer on kills...

Shame you didn't bother to read about that exploit being fixed this week. But I am sure you not playing won't make much of a difference anyway.
dude, the bug is there, its not connected with /stuck exploit. its 2 days since patch, everyone knows its still present.

its just disgusting to feel totally neglected by devs. Imagine - people forced, really made them to answer the famous How Is Winner Determined in a draw question by posting a wrong! answer from ingame support.

Now how bad is this? Why didnt they answer before? Why did they ignore this thread now, so may be i should go and make a ticked then post a completely wrong and irrelevant answer here to draw their attention?

They just dont care at all, really, seems like they are more busy with, i dont know really with what.

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Balmuck
02.24.2012 , 01:10 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by vekkth View Post
I copy this from another thread since it might happen its not a bug that everyone have. Our server - Tayrus Academy - has it, almost any republic player experience it, no information on Sith but judging by their behavior they sometimes get it too.


Here is what happening - an absolute legit fight. we are outnumbered by imps about 1/3.

1 kill
1 kill
1 kill
they are dumb enough to get close to cannon. cannon goes boom

1 kill
1 kill
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained
No Valor Gained

After that, the only ! way to get valor gains back is to die, or go out of the zone and come back.

Personally, it ruins a huge aspect of the game for me - i almost exclusively PvP, and this issue just forces me to quit Ilum as soon as i finish my daily/weekly. But there is NO FUN IN THAT, i love those long fights when zerg, or (even more) when we are defending rep base in small numbers being really really outnumbered - because it feels heroic.

Now i do not abuse, do not cheat, yet game forces me to die every 2-3 kills i get counted. This is very frustrating, could you please explain - is this how you actually see Ilum battles? Is this a "working as intended" issue or, in fact, a bug?

I would be most greatful for your answer - after todays Ilum most reps went away after they finished daily - due to this bug - in a mere 30 minutes. And sometimes we stay for 2-3 hours having a lot of fun. The fun is gone.


You can call up our good old Valor Trade buddies and give them the Thanks for this"bug"... which isn't a bug at all but a fix they implemented due to the idiots constanly /stucking and streaming out to kill each other for valor.


I do know that the fix is pretty bad but Bioware isn't to blame. It's all the selfish and lazy players who are convinced that no matter what, they'll Valor Trade and not get in trouble.


Edit:

This issue is most likely not present anymore since they actually fixed the /stuck exploit. I know for a fact, as soon as we start wiping them, even if they're outnumbering us 3:1, the imps on our server abused the heck out of that exploit... I noticed that as soon as they started doing that, I'd get the No Valor Gained message.
FULKAN

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vekkth
02.24.2012 , 02:01 PM | #58
dude wake up. its still there. it affects one people and does not affect another, who are in the same OPS and sitting next to each other in RL. who should i thank for that?

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athx
02.24.2012 , 02:13 PM | #59
Jung Ma server had it a few weeks ago. We played Nascar with sith. Took us 3-5 days before it was "fixed". The other option is try and force a second instand (Ilum2 or 3). That worked for us.
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neverface
02.24.2012 , 08:48 PM | #60
Getting this every 3-5 kills tonight in Ilum. Help me obi wan!
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