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Sorcs and Sages need 2 Stances so they cannot Heal and DPS at the same time.

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Sorcs and Sages need 2 Stances so they cannot Heal and DPS at the same time.

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Wesleyhjw
02.23.2012 , 09:59 PM | #151
Quote: Originally Posted by TetraCleric View Post
Oh, should I post a SS of my character? And I meant unbuffed as in no relic/adrenal. I of course have the 5% from ops.
yup cos all sorcerors come with a pocket operative right?

also unless you specced into the 3 crit talent, you really need to look into your itemisation

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Acyu
02.23.2012 , 09:59 PM | #152
Quote: Originally Posted by EternalFinality View Post
Fun fact - a 3.6k bubble absorbs 7k when guarded. And that wasn't even in the range.
Fun fact: a marauder who pops undying rage gains an effective health of 150,000!!!!!! OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

what if they're guarded?

What if they're bubbled?


They... are... UNKILLABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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AKfourtyseven
02.23.2012 , 09:59 PM | #153
Quote: Originally Posted by Durasturan View Post
And certainly not more than BH or Warriors get...
*whistles* Warriors dont get CC...

/nothing to see here

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savionen
02.23.2012 , 10:01 PM | #154
Quote: Originally Posted by Acyu View Post
Fun fact: a marauder who pops undying rage gains an effective health of 150,000!!!!!! OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

what if they're guarded?

What if they're bubbled?


They... are... UNKILLABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except if you CC a Marauder with Undying Rage they lost a lot of health for no reason.

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Acyu
02.23.2012 , 10:02 PM | #155
Quote: Originally Posted by TetraCleric View Post
^

I can break 75k healing by just bubbling myself, and it shouldn't work that way.
bubble only counts as healing when it absorbs damage.

If you break 75K healing by bubbling yourself, that means you got attacked with 75K damage while bubbled.

You can't just stand in the corner and spam bubble to get 75K healing...

Sorcerers do bubble other people, especially when they're not getting attacked.

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Calista_ZK
02.23.2012 , 10:04 PM | #156
Quote: Originally Posted by jonnyshadow View Post
*sigh* in your first post you said "so nerf them because they annoy you...." and a full healer shouldnt mind a healing stance due that it would benefit them more since it would focus them on healing specifically and they still have their utilities in oh **** situations but ...as for a dps is could go either way since they would get a little bit more damage but it costs them to give up their heals and a heal is a heal no matter how little...and as for using caps it was used to point out a fact in which you clearly never comprehended since ive been stating that in a couple of my other post want me to do it the formal way and use italics? read comprehend then respond before you posts oh btw full heals do still have good sustainable damage not burst damage sustainable http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8C7y...eature=related ima say this for the last time a stance would just focus the player into either dpsing or healing so that they cant do both
One long rant, with an insult thrown in for good measure.

1) Suggest that if you want anyone to read this, try paragraphs, its almost unreadable in its current format
2) The more you ramble, the more it sounds like you are griping about something you don't have and can't deal with, seriously, a heal is a heal, no matter how little??? so take it all away from DPS spec?

In fact, in DPS spec, the heals in a wz are fairly poor, given that one is long to cast and is resource-intensive.

Again, not everyone here may agree with your proposal, learn to live with it. Or don't post on the forum, and definitely don't flame, insult, etc. Leave the attitude behind.

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Durasturan
02.23.2012 , 10:04 PM | #157
Quote: Originally Posted by savionen View Post
20 second knockback that also roots.
Static barrier that aoe blinds when it explodes, on a 17sec cooldown.
8sec mez that can also be spec'd to stun for 2 seconds when it breaks (if it breaks, lolbug)
4sec stun.
6sec snare on 12sec cooldown.
Spammable snare on their "auto-attack".

That's a lot more than a Vanguard's 1min 4 second stun, and 45sec 2.5sec aoe melee stun. Snare is only on a proc, and 2 seconds.
Herp derp, biased much? Snare is not "spammable" on their autoattack 4 sec stun is on 60 second cd. blind breaks on damage and and has a percentage to hit, doesnt 100% hit, so it's on a proc, snare is NOT on 12 sec cd lolwhut now youre making stuff up. And MOST of that CC you listed is mitigated entirely by my gap closer... soooooooo, yeah. What class do you play so poorly that you can't kill an equally geared sorc that does LITTERALLY 1/2 as much DPS as you?

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TetraCleric
02.23.2012 , 10:04 PM | #158
Quote: Originally Posted by Wesleyhjw View Post
yup cos all sorcerors come with a pocket operative right?

also unless you specced into the 3 crit talent, you really need to look into your itemisation
Well, I regularly have ops in my warzones, whether I queue with one from my guild, or I solo queue.

As for my itemization. I cannot affect the way BM gear is itemized, and it currently is a power,crit, alacrity set up naturally.

For an idea of my stats, look at this: http://i.imgur.com/Bmu2p.jpg

You're right though, I lied, I'm at 36%.

I'm also in a mix of PvP/PvE gear to maximize WP because that's more important than expertise at this point.

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TetraCleric
02.23.2012 , 10:05 PM | #159
Quote: Originally Posted by Acyu View Post
bubble only counts as healing when it absorbs damage.

If you break 75K healing by bubbling yourself, that means you got attacked with 75K damage while bubbled.

You can't just stand in the corner and spam bubble to get 75K healing...

Sorcerers do bubble other people, especially when they're not getting attacked.
Right, which is why I regularly have over 120k healing every game. I'm saying it shouldn't work that way on myself though.

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Acyu
02.23.2012 , 10:08 PM | #160
Quote: Originally Posted by TetraCleric View Post
Right, which is why I regularly have over 120k healing every game. I'm saying it shouldn't work that way on myself though.
unfortunately that doesn't' change anything. People wont' be satisfied just because the stats at the end of warzones change. They want the actual nerf on bubble, as in the amount absorbed and cooldown, along with every other aspect of a sorcerer.

Oh well, why do i care, I stopped playing my healing sorc. They're a joke in warzones now that people are getting geared. Insta-gibbed every time I start healing. I either get jumped by multiple melees or get grappled into the middle of a huge group.