Sorcs and Sages need 2 Stances so they cannot Heal and DPS at the same time.

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Sorcs and Sages need 2 Stances so they cannot Heal and DPS at the same time.

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MotorCityMan

02.23.2012 , 09:36 PM \| #111	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by RedMix Flat out prevent them from casting heals/shield while in DPS stance or make them take 2x as long to cast them or something. these Sorcs doing 500k Dmg and Healing at the same time is just ridiculous. Excellent suggestion. Allows for flexibility of play style and might get sorcs and counselor abilities back in line with other pvp players.

TetraCleric

02.23.2012 , 09:38 PM \| #112	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by AKfourtyseven I assume you meant "a full dps doesnt have very efficient heals". I would agree with you if it wasnt for the fact we can crit heal for 4-5k when in DPS spec and having 0 points in the healer tree. I'd call that pretty damn good all things being considered. You are right though, a full healer spec Sorc isnt killing anyone at all. Everyone who plays a Sorc or know the class properly understand the issue with Sorc is not any spec that spends 31pts in a single tree. Stances will not change that issue since its a fundamental error in skill placement. You're not hitting 4-5k crits in combat with DI, ever, as a DPS build with no points in the healing tree. OOC you're lucky to get a 5k crit with no adrenal/relic popped. That said I think a shadow form would be something nifty, as it's an extra thing to micro manage to play well.

Soultyr

02.23.2012 , 09:38 PM \| #113	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by AntoniusDelitan Because apples aren't oranges. +1 melee has forms they benefit from. What would be the benefit of granting the two forms if its bh like damage spike count me in.
[Because Sometimes its not] [But your still paranoid anyway] Jaenx - Vanguard <Starsider>

jonnyshadow

02.23.2012 , 09:38 PM \| #114	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Calista_ZK I can also easily tell that you feel that using caps lock and raging at people will make you feel that you are right- since I have read the entire thread. Please, don't flame/insult me when I respond here. It's a poor proposal, however you want to call it. I never used the word nerf. I doubt you have played the class, I don't think you understand the limitations of what a sorc/sage can do under full heal, full DPS or hybrid. A full heal doesn't do good damage, a full heal or hybrid doesn't have very efficient heals. Not everyone has to agree with your proposal, if you can't live with that, don't post in a public forum. sigh in your first post you said "so nerf them because they annoy you...." and a full healer shouldnt mind a healing stance due that it would benefit them more since it would focus them on healing specifically and they still have their utilities in oh **** situations but ...as for a dps is could go either way since they would get a little bit more damage but it costs them to give up their heals and a heal is a heal no matter how little...and as for using caps it was used to point out a fact in which you clearly never comprehended since ive been stating that in a couple of my other post want me to do it the formal way and use italics? read comprehend then respond before you posts oh btw full heals do still have good sustainable damage not burst damage sustainable http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8C7y...eature=related ima say this for the last time a stance would just focus the player into either dpsing or healing so that they cant do both

savionen

02.23.2012 , 09:39 PM \| #115	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Wesleyhjw Clearly LOS is a mechanic that only exists for sorcerors Ofc not, but Sorcs are the only ones that can spam-heal themselves while LoS'ing to full-health, while still in combat, as a non-healing spec.

Wesleyhjw

02.23.2012 , 09:39 PM \| #116	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Aidank Not when you consider that it's buffed by trinkets & adrenals. With a power adrenal, I assume 4.5k is reachable. didnt know sorcerors used adrenals just to bubble for more. apparently adrenals have an 18s CD as well yeah?

Acyu

02.23.2012 , 09:39 PM \| #117	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by TetraCleric You're not hitting 4-5k crits in combat with DI, ever, as a DPS build with no points in the healing tree. OOC you're lucky to get a 5k crit with no adrenal/relic popped. That said I think a shadow form would be something nifty, as it's an extra thing to micro manage to play well. +1 as dps spec and in full champion, i crit 5.2K with relic popped ooc. I do that for healing medals.

TetraCleric

02.23.2012 , 09:40 PM \| #118	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by savionen Ofc not, but Sorcs are the only ones that can spam-heal themselves while LoS'ing to full-health, while still in combat, as a non-healing spec. lolwut? 3 second cast is a spam? 2.5 second cast for 1.5k-2k is spam? Are you not interrupting or doing damage? Or are you just letting them freecast? Are you alone or do you have teammates?

AKfourtyseven

02.23.2012 , 09:41 PM \| #119	Quote
One last thing, are people honestly silly enough to think Sorc are actually doing 200k healing, *real* healing while putting out 400k damage? No they are not. Those figures are nonsense and its counting the damage prevented by bubbles and listing it as healing. If you dont believe this, ask a Sorc to bubble themselves and then run over the fire at the start of hutball... 2.5k healing medal instantly. Its a very very stupid feature and they should fix it.

Wesleyhjw

02.23.2012 , 09:41 PM \| #120	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by savionen Ofc not, but Sorcs are the only ones that can spam-heal themselves while LoS'ing to full-health, while still in combat, as a non-healing spec. really? so i guess operatives and merc dpsers heal for 0 in combat?

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