Hybrid Sorcerer/Sage Utility is OP in PvP

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Hybrid Sorcerer/Sage Utility is OP in PvP

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paladinjb

02.23.2012 , 08:57 PM \| #181	Quote
If a game with balanced PvP is the goal, then any class that is above average is overpowered. With the amount of utility the OP mentioned, I find it hard to believe that anyone can say with a straight face that sorcs/sages are not above average. There may be other classes that deserve a nerf, and there may be other classes that deserve buffs. The object is for things to be even. If you just let sorcs/sages keep everything they have as far as utility goes, then you are setting the bar to ridiculous levels for all the underpowered classes to be buffed to. Every spec doesn't have to perform well, but each class should have a few top specs that perform similarly to the other classes top specs. That's not the case right now, and balancing needs to be done. PvP balance is key to the success of any game that wants to keep a PvP oriented player base. PS: Just because another class is OP, that doesn't justify a different class into being OP as well. Two wrongs don't make a right.

agentbam

02.23.2012 , 09:31 PM \| #182	Quote
I think OP hasn't done enough homework!

oblongship

02.23.2012 , 09:48 PM \| #183	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by agentbam I think OP hasn't done enough homework! Agreed...

Guioki

02.24.2012 , 01:45 AM \| #184	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri People do a lot more than 30% unmitigated damage. In my calculations I was being overly generous so that responses like yours wouldn't criticize me for biased calculations. If anything you're the one being biased claiming that you only have ONE DoT that is internal damage when in fact Death Field, Crushing Darkness(your highest DPCT ability), and Affliction are all internal. Even a hybrid spec Sorcerer's damage will have a large portion unmitigated. Cool story bro... Cant wait to cast my internal damage Crushing Darkness on you.

GrandMike

02.24.2012 , 02:32 AM \| #185	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by paladinjb If a game with balanced PvP is the goal, then any class that is above average is overpowered. With the amount of utility the OP mentioned, I find it hard to believe that anyone can say with a straight face that sorcs/sages are not above average. There may be other classes that deserve a nerf, and there may be other classes that deserve buffs. The object is for things to be even. If you just let sorcs/sages keep everything they have as far as utility goes, then you are setting the bar to ridiculous levels for all the underpowered classes to be buffed to. Every spec doesn't have to perform well, but each class should have a few top specs that perform similarly to the other classes top specs. That's not the case right now, and balancing needs to be done. PvP balance is key to the success of any game that wants to keep a PvP oriented player base. PS: Just because another class is OP, that doesn't justify a different class into being OP as well. Two wrongs don't make a right. Then you should nerf >half of the classes. And definately NOT start with sorc/sage. Quote: Originally Posted by bantros They only nerf classes that are hardly played unfortunately Ooooh, yes, they nerf classes that actually need nerfing, what a "out of their mind" idea! What, you used that if you whine enough it will get nerfed lol

Telaan

02.24.2012 , 02:50 AM \| #186	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri Bump for PvP balance. Why necro this thread? As with every other "NERF SORC/SAGE CUZ I DIED BROHA", this thread is filled with exaggerated, false, uninformed, and anecdotal posts by people who died in PvP and whose consciences require justice. Additionally, bumping threads is against forum rules.
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Wheldrake

02.24.2012 , 04:07 AM \| #187	Quote
This guy seems to have written a post tha comprises several different sorc's that probably pwnd him at one time or another. We dont get all of those abilities. AND a hybrid is severly hampered in 1v1 combat why not just go over and smash his face in.

GrandMike

02.24.2012 , 04:08 AM \| #188	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Wheldrake This guy seems to have written a post tha comprises several different sorc's that probably pwnd him at one time or another. We dont get all of those abilities. AND a hybrid is severly hampered in 1v1 combat why not just go over and smash his face in. Yah, most of the talk is about OP 31/31/31 build that has all internal damage

Aidank

02.24.2012 , 11:14 AM \| #189	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Wheldrake This guy seems to have written a post tha comprises several different sorc's that probably pwnd him at one time or another. We dont get all of those abilities. AND a hybrid is severly hampered in 1v1 combat why not just go over and smash his face in. No, if you bothered to actually read the post, everything he's mentioned is obtainable by 20/21 and other similar hybrids.
Quote: Originally Posted by HileyQuiggley Nerf Grav Round are you serious? What else could we possibly do after that?

Tumri

02.24.2012 , 08:57 PM \| #190	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by GrandMike Yah, most of the talk is about OP 31/31/31 build that has all internal damage You're exaggerating STILL. You're ignoring my responses to your "31/31/31" argument STILL.
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