Sorcs and Sages need 2 Stances so they cannot Heal and DPS at the same time.

So nerf them because they annoy you...and you are lazy..Pretty much sums it up.You can kill them, hence, they are NOT OP. By the way, insulting people's choice of spec if they don't roll the way you want (DPS instead of heals) doesn't show much knowledge of the class either.

You can't DPS well AND heal without giving something up.. We don't need a stance, why should every class be the same? By the way, I have a sin, I work with a stance, doesn't mean I need it on every class that I play.

i wouldnt mind if sorcs had a shadowform that would reduce heals, but would also increase spell damage.

Look up hybrid 0/21/20 sorc/sage, plenty of CC in that build, more than any other class actually.

^ Key word 'we'.

Your last sentence I agree with 100%, sorcs are free kills for mara's exclusively and to a lesser extent powertechs. Hell any competent dps especially vs the healing sorcs is just a free kill for them.

I never said they have the most cc, I said the amount of cc they have is entirely to much for a hybrid spec. Roots on overload, instant whirlwind, reduced duration on their stun, reduced timer on force speed.. list goes on. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just trying to protect a easy-mode spec vs all other specs aside from the two mentioned by you. If the resolve system took into account roots/snares, cc's in general would be somewhat fine, but even then, pvp for the most part is just a gigantic spamming of cc.

Taking maurs/techs outta the equation, a weel geared sorc can do a lot of dmg. Again, it boils down to how well geared people are.

Either way the lightning/madness tree need to be reworked. How they'd do it by giving them more burst/dmg while taking away cc so they still have some survivability, who knows. I'm sure at some point Bioware will completely f#$k it up in some aspect.

they've got the best heals of any non-healing spec in the game by a pretty wide margin.

3.5k bubble on a 18 second cooldown, some 4k crit heals with dark infusion.


Hell, hybrid sorcs probably heal as well, if not better than sawbones scoundrels.

i can easily tell you never read all of my posts THIS IS A PROPOSAL NOT A NERF a nerf is lowering your abilities this is a proposal to make the class more focused on if they want to heal or dps and stance make sure they cant do both read the thread before you post and yes currently they can heal + dps lightning lightning (other dps skills) oh no im getting attked force speed heal heal forgot the bubble/knockback/stun in that line up but you get the pic

which means what exactly? what is this magical key word supposed to mean, please enlighten us.

Not to mention that since they have near infinite Force they can actually... heal.

You want to heal with a Mercenary or Operative that isn't healing spec and you'll use all your resources to get like 6k hp.

Need to describe this in more detail.

Heal: stationary 3 sec healing and 1.5 s stationary small heal unless 11 points into heal tree for 200hp per sec mobile healing.
Bubble: 3k with a debuff preventing you from recasting this on the same person for a period of time.
Pull: sage sorc only have rescue/extricate for teammates which is rarely useful outside of huttball in pvp.
Dps: if full out Dps, you can't really heal in combat. 3 sec heal with pushback when hit.
Cc: healers have only 1 short cc and 1 long one and escaping is tough if you know when to do your own ccs right.

A sage/sorc works best when they are allowed to stand. If you force them to move to avoid dmg, you have nerfed them quite a lot.