Sorcs and Sages need 2 Stances so they cannot Heal and DPS at the same time.

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Sorcs and Sages need 2 Stances so they cannot Heal and DPS at the same time.

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Tumri

02.23.2012 , 08:41 PM \| #71	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by wwkingms anything this dude says is irrelevant he's the biggest nerf finger pointer in the forums and probably cant play his own class if sorcs get stances then i better here ops and mercs in the same convo.. if not ur just the same anti sorc qqers that i always see who dont know anything about real pvp I like how you cry whenever I post simply because I have a decent argument against Sorcerers and all of your nonsensical arguments were obliterated in my thread. You have no idea what you're talking about 99% of the time. Bounty Hunter "Stances" aka. Cylinders: http://www.torhead.com/ability/1A9VF...y-gas-cylinder http://www.torhead.com/ability/exIwN...pport-cylinder http://www.torhead.com/ability/3SQar1G/ion-gas-cylinder http://www.torhead.com/ability/gvSqk...y-gas-cylinder http://www.torhead.com/ability/2j2rn...e-gas-cylinder Operatives are limited in healing despite their lack of a "stance" mechanic because their heals use up literally 25-50% of their entire resource bar because they're balanced around constant regeneration from talented regen mechanics.
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Sylvarine

02.23.2012 , 08:42 PM \| #72	Quote
They don't need stances at all, they just need to rework the hybrid spec. In it's current form, they have entirely too much cc. It's almost like playing a merc, easymode ftw. Fix the resolve system to work with roots/snares.. a lot of the qq with sorcs will disappear.

Evuke

02.23.2012 , 08:46 PM \| #73	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri Deathmark Hybrid Forked Lightning Hybrid Yes. 38/38/38 specs indeed. You could argue their base healing capabilities are being exaggerated when not using a hybrid heal spec but that's about it. Your base healing ability is the best in the game by the way. No other class can do it better without being specced. Neither of those specs have any healing tree in them though, so all a sorc would have is the 2 default sage (long cooldown, high force) heals. One you can interrupt and the other is on such a long cast it's pretty much unusable.

Durasturan

02.23.2012 , 08:48 PM \| #74	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Sylvarine They don't need stances at all, they just need to rework the hybrid spec. In it's current form, they have entirely too much cc. It's almost like playing a merc, easymode ftw. Fix the resolve system to work with roots/snares.. a lot of the qq with sorcs will disappear. Inq's have the most CC, lol, do you really believe that or are you just jumping on the bandwagon? Inq's do NOT have the most CC, not by a long shot, they do low damage, have NO burst. Honestly it's a joke class. I' faceroll them on my Powertech and Mara.

AntoniusDelitan

02.23.2012 , 08:56 PM \| #75	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri I'll just copy-paste this here. It's unbelievable the number of Sorcerers that don't even know how their bubble functions and how it compares to mitigation. 99% of Sorcerers I've seen on forums and in games have no idea their bubble even scales with health and healing power(from Willpower and Power). You're wrong. Bubble scales with healing power only. Not health. From Torhead.com - At level 50, Static Barrier absorbs 1162 + 327% of Force Healing Bonus before talents. Also, your calculations putting light armor + bubble = Medium armor = heavy armor are wrong. A sorc in full PvP gear barely tops 16k HP. A jugg in PvP gear is commonly sporting over 23k. It's a simple fact you quite conveniently forgot to mention. Redo your time to live calculations accordingly.
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Jimra

02.23.2012 , 08:58 PM \| #76	Quote
/signed, damn good idea. Didn't bother reading the militant sorc replies.

jonnyshadow

02.23.2012 , 08:59 PM \| #77	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Wesleyhjw sure. but make sure every other class and specs get the same treatment tanks got a stance for tanks/dpsing dpsers can only dps sentinels got different stances/snipers are immobile due to the cover system commando have stances scoundrels basically on got stealth in there utility other classess already have something that focuses them

Sathid

02.23.2012 , 08:59 PM \| #78	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by DirtyDiggler if they are to nerf socs, they need to nerf the rest to. This means nerf guard, nerf tracer missle, nerf the huge melee hits, nerf stealth, If i remember correctly werent you one of the ones that wanted Op/Scoundrels nerfed not once but twice? I think you are,i have list of forum posters that did that but not on hand atm.

savionen

02.23.2012 , 09:04 PM \| #79	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by AntoniusDelitan You're wrong. Bubble scales with healing power only. Not health. From Torhead.com - At level 50, Static Barrier absorbs 1162 + 327% of Force Healing Bonus before talents. Also, your calculations putting light armor + bubble = Medium armor = heavy armor are wrong. A sorc in full PvP gear barely tops 16k HP. A jugg in PvP gear is commonly sporting over 23k. It's a simple fact you quite conveniently forgot to mention. Redo your time to live calculations accordingly. All classes are around 16500 without endurance talents. Talents would push them up to 17k. Full BM Jedi Knight still only has about 17k hp. There's no way to get more than that unless you're wearing Rakata gear or wearing full tank gear, you can get up to 23k-ish in full tank-gear. Tank gear is also bad in PvP, so acting as if Sorcerers have a small health pool simply isn't true.

Sathid

02.23.2012 , 09:04 PM \| #80	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Wesleyhjw sure. but make sure every other class and specs get the same treatment Hah and i KNOW you wesley were on of the ones that wanted Ops/Scoundrels nerfed into the ground,you even posted pre 1.1 patch vids even though it was explained to you many times that was not happening. People we have a number of posters that are Sorcs that do not want balance or any class thats a threat to them,i debated with these people for two weeks ,they are not honest and are utterly bias in every approach,do not listen the them.

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