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Menisong

02.23.2012 , 06:30 PM \| #631	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Loendar Actually, as someone pointed out previously, all of the analogies that have been presented in this thread have been pretty horrific in hitting their target. Analogies are historically one of the worst ways to make a point because few things are apples to apples even in the same environment/context let alone when you start trying to compare a car w/ air conditioning to a DPS meter in an MMO. analogies arent meant to prove anything, they are simply their to relate to unlike things. The ananlogies are fine.

sheisty

02.23.2012 , 06:31 PM \| #632	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Taroen So make it really interesting... A closer analogy would be to have them do the math by hand without knowing half of the numbers involved and having to guess at the solutions. Thats not math then, its a numbers guessing game.

Taroen

02.23.2012 , 06:31 PM \| #633	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Volksworgen I love this game, but I just can't believe some people ignoring some big issues with the game and then on top of that, they call them a game killer, community, or whatever the hell killer they can come up with. Agreed. Those are usually people that got their feelings hurt because they got called on their poor play, or removed from a group because of it. They don't want parsing now because they might not get carried anymore.

Taroen

02.23.2012 , 06:32 PM \| #634	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by sheisty Thats not math then, its a numbers guessing game. Which is EXACTLY what it is now. You have no data, so you have to guess... Which is just lame.

Forsbacka

02.23.2012 , 06:32 PM \| #635	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by sheisty Thats not math then, its a numbers guessing game. Just like raiding in TOR atm.
Modern MMORPG at 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE7j3ftWsZs

sheisty

02.23.2012 , 06:33 PM \| #636	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Taroen Agreed. Those are usually people that got their feelings hurt because they got called on their poor play, or removed from a group because of it. They don't want parsing now because they might not get carried anymore. And there is the real reson you guys want a combat log, not to improve yourselves, but to kick people you deem unworthy. You said it yourself.

Forsbacka

02.23.2012 , 06:33 PM \| #637	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Loendar Actually, as someone pointed out previously, all of the analogies that have been presented in this thread have been pretty horrific in hitting their target. Analogies are historically one of the worst ways to make a point because few things are apples to apples even in the same environment/context let alone when you start trying to compare a car w/ air conditioning to a DPS meter in an MMO. Worst ananlogy so far ive seen was comparing EQ1 70 man raiding to hardcore raiding of today.
Modern MMORPG at 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE7j3ftWsZs

Chewpaco

02.23.2012 , 06:34 PM \| #638	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Menisong These people are no longer like minded players...that is hard for you to grasp? Also, stop being a victim. I'm not a victim. I bought this game and am playing it the way it came out of the box. I am succeeding, and I am having fun. Your refusal to acknowledge how add-ons like this have a negative impact on a community shows me that you do not argue in good faith, that you argue with an agenda, and that you are incapable of seeing something from another person's point of view. Which is exactly the reason someone like you shouldn't have access to a combat parser in a social game. I have clearly stated many times that I see the mathematical advantages to using a DPS parser. I have clearly stated I see the advantages to parser and combat logs when it comes to determining what has transpired in a combat scenario to cause a whipe. I have conceded these things as being beneficial They are beneficial at the cost of a civil community. Your refusal to recognize that is the glaring reason you will never win this argument with me.

Forsbacka

02.23.2012 , 06:35 PM \| #639	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by sheisty And there is the real reson you guys want a combat log, not to improve yourselves, but to kick people you deem unworthy. You said it yourself. Kick or try help em to improve, depends what goals your guild is set on to and in which time frame. Using meters is totally optional, you just have to find like minded people.
Modern MMORPG at 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE7j3ftWsZs

sheisty

02.23.2012 , 06:35 PM \| #640	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Taroen Which is EXACTLY what it is now. You have no data, so you have to guess... Which is just lame. This is why its considered a GAME. And you can say that guessing is a feature of it which makes things more difficult, which you guys want anyway.

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