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Chewpaco

02.23.2012 , 06:06 PM \| #601	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Menisong There you go. He hasnt raided since EQ. Every single top raid guild I have ever seen does EXACTLY what you described above. Top raid guilds do this today. Yes. But we aren't talking about the dmage that will be inflicted upon the community based on how a top 10 raid guild in the world will use a dps parser are we? We are talking about the effect that DPS parser have aon a community when put into the hands of the avearge gamer that doesn't realize the dedication it takes to clear end game content. You make my point for me. If these tools were limited to Top end raiding guilds, they would be safe. They are not the ones abusing the tool.

XOrionX

02.23.2012 , 06:07 PM \| #602	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Forsbacka This was his gaming mouse back then. http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/cyber...s-09-dec-1968/ Not enough buttons for macros. Just sayin..
"Never tell me the odds!" ~Han Solo

Taroen

02.23.2012 , 06:08 PM \| #603	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Chewpaco I'm through talking to you - because I have answered the question the way that i am going to answer it. You don't appear to like the way I answer it. Sorry, too bad for you. So how can any good raid leader make any assumptions whatsoever, that is worth anything, without ever once stepping foot into the encounter before? Because he watched a Youtube vid? Please - get real. He knows the exact way to compose his raid based off of what he saw on TankSpot vs. experiencing encounters himself? Sounds like a great raid leader to me. Remind me to never join a raid you are associated with - thanks You're just embarrassing yourself, at this point. The problem is that you can't escape the fact that without any data, you have no way of knowing where the weakness in the raid exists, or how to address it. You can have the right composition, the right strategy, and enough decently geared people to complete an encounter, and still fail the encounter if someone is underperforming. You have no way currently to identify them or even help them because there is no way to know where they could improve.

Forsbacka

02.23.2012 , 06:08 PM \| #604	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Chewpaco Top raid guilds do this today. Yes. But we aren't talking about the dmage that will be inflicted upon the community based on how a top 10 raid guild in the world will use a dps parser are we? We are talking about the effect that DPS parser have aon a community when put into the hands of the avearge gamer that doesn't realize the dedication it takes to clear end game content. You make my point for me. If these tools were limited to Top end raiding guilds, they would be safe. They are not the ones abusing the tool. Meters are very usefull tools for average raiging guilds and widely used. If anything BW could prevent using em on pugs but any raiding guild, average or above uses em for they are ment to be.
Modern MMORPG at 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE7j3ftWsZs

Menisong

02.23.2012 , 06:09 PM \| #605	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Chewpaco Top raid guilds do this today. Yes. But we aren't talking about the dmage that will be inflicted upon the community based on how a top 10 raid guild in the world will use a dps parser are we? We are talking about the effect that DPS parser have aon a community when put into the hands of the avearge gamer that doesn't realize the dedication it takes to clear end game content. You make my point for me. If these tools were limited to Top end raiding guilds, they would be safe. They are not the ones abusing the tool. Which is why your stance should be that players should play with like minded players. Not remove the tool altogether.

Muskaan

02.23.2012 , 06:10 PM \| #606	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Chewpaco Top raid guilds do this today. Yes. But we aren't talking about the dmage that will be inflicted upon the community based on how a top 10 raid guild in the world will use a dps parser are we? We are talking about the effect that DPS parser have aon a community when put into the hands of the avearge gamer that doesn't realize the dedication it takes to clear end game content. You make my point for me. If these tools were limited to Top end raiding guilds, they would be safe. They are not the ones abusing the tool. I.e. get rid of the grading system from schools so that every kid appears amazing. Very interesting sociological model.
50 Sorc Healer/DPS - We Brake For Nobody - (RIP) Empire US-West PvE soon-to-be defunct raiding guild (5/5 Eternity Vault HM, 5/5 Karagga's Palace HM)

Menisong

02.23.2012 , 06:11 PM \| #607	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Muskaan I.e. get rid of the grading system from schools so that every kid appears amazing. Very interesting sociological model. Take writing utensils away form all the students because some can't use them properly.

Chewpaco

02.23.2012 , 06:13 PM \| #608	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Taroen You're just embarrassing yourself, at this point. The problem is that you can't escape the fact that without any data, you have no way of knowing where the weakness in the raid exists, or how to address it. You can have the right composition, the right strategy, and enough decently geared people to complete an encounter, and still fail the encounter if someone is underperforming. You have no way currently to identify them or even help them because there is no way to know where they could improve. You say i am embarrassing myself I say you are showing what little experience you have in raiding without the use of a parser. You show your MMO age.

sheisty

02.23.2012 , 06:13 PM \| #609	Quote
So wait, on one hand you guys want harder content but you want a dps meter to make it easyer? does this even make sense?

Forsbacka

02.23.2012 , 06:13 PM \| #610	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Menisong Take writing utensils away form all the students because some can't use them properly. Ban calculators, add more trial and error to math also. WTT cell phone to landline, ive become too lazy due it.
Modern MMORPG at 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE7j3ftWsZs

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