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People who ninja for their companions

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Setanian
02.23.2012 , 04:57 PM | #601
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
A Companion is no different than needing for offspec in WOW. Most healers don't play as a heal spec while soloing. They dual spec into heals for dungeons and DPS for soloing. Companions are really no different. There's nothing new here. And needing for offspec in that game gets you booted from groups more often than not.


Also, when Bioware makes the changes that the lead designer proposed, # 1 won't even exist in the game.
Companions are a lot different than off-spec. Can I play 2 specs at a time in wow.? No.. Can I in ToR? In effect, I am. Me and the companion.

Also, In wow, does my off-spec help my current spec? No.. In ToR does my companion help me to level? Yes.

Without being too blunt, you're argument is totally flawed.
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Setanian
02.23.2012 , 05:00 PM | #602
Quote: Originally Posted by Yuuj View Post
People who don't punch people who ninja for their companions in the nose make me sick.
Funny.. bud sad..
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Galbatorrix
02.23.2012 , 05:04 PM | #603
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
Companions are a lot different than off-spec. Can I play 2 specs at a time in wow.? No.. Can I in ToR? In effect, I am. Me and the companion.

Also, In wow, does my off-spec help my current spec? No.. In ToR does my companion help me to level? Yes.

Without being too blunt, you're argument is totally flawed.

WOW - A healer needs for his DPS spec so he can solo better.

TOR - A player needs for his companion so he can solo better.

Both the offspec and the companion serve the same purpose here.

Also, neither the DPS spec nor the companion helped during the run, but players still needed for them and they're the ones that ended up with the loot. Both the offspec and the companion are technically "the player", but neither helped the group get through the content.


Not flawed in the least

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terminova
02.23.2012 , 05:04 PM | #604
Quote: Originally Posted by universeman View Post
I haven't slighted nobody. It's amazing how you guys get so defensive over this discussion and now I'm throwing insults? Ya...

Pointless spam is your opinion. If you don't care to try and understand my side of the situation, then that's your prerogative.
I've read your posts, and understand them fully. The most recent ones you've made are simply filler that are meaningless.

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ferroz
02.23.2012 , 05:06 PM | #605
Quote: Originally Posted by Vecke View Post
And I appreciate that it's inexplicably made worse by the jawa avatar above his name.
That is a speciesist comment!

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universeman
02.23.2012 , 05:06 PM | #606
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
Companions are a lot different than off-spec. Can I play 2 specs at a time in wow.? No.. Can I in ToR? In effect, I am. Me and the companion.

Also, In wow, does my off-spec help my current spec? No.. In ToR does my companion help me to level? Yes.

Without being too blunt, you're argument is totally flawed.
Ok, we're really stretching things here. Do you use a companion 100% of the time in game? Do you ever use more than 1 companion at a time?

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Setanian
02.23.2012 , 05:07 PM | #607
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Again, it's only fair if it's the consensus. Which it's not currently. If everyone needs for companions, then that way is fair, I agree. But since so many people pass on that gear when people are present that need it for their PC, these people are at an unfair disadvantage when grouped with people like you that DO need for companions.


So, no, it's really not fair for all as you suggest.
This is incorrect.. Want to discuss fair? Let's take an example..

4 players, 1 boss, 2 class items.

If we use NBG, 2 players get something, 2 players get nothing.

If we use roll/pass. Assuming all roll;

2 Players get loot, 2 players get nothing. But.. 2 players now have 2 bits of loot that may not be for their class, which they can now sell to the players matching the class of the loot.

Result.. 4 players, 2 with loot, 2 with credits.

Are you saying 2 players with loot and 2 players with nothing is more fair than my last example?
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universeman
02.23.2012 , 05:09 PM | #608
Quote: Originally Posted by terminova View Post
I've read your posts, and understand them fully. The most recent ones you've made are simply filler that are meaningless.
You obviously don't if you think they were meaningless.

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Setanian
02.23.2012 , 05:10 PM | #609
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
WOW - A healer needs for his DPS spec so he can solo better.
While he is soloing he is only using 1 spec.

Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
TOR - A player needs for his companion so he can solo better.
The ToR player is using 2 specs while soloing. His characters and his companions. Both are required to level.

Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Both the offspec and the companion serve the same purpose here.
untrue. for the reasons I explained above.


Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Also, neither the DPS spec nor the companion helped during the run, but players still needed for them and they're the ones that ended up with the loot. Both the offspec and the companion are technically "the player", but neither helped the group get through the content.
You are assuming you have a right to question what a player does with loot s/he wins. You do not.


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Not flawed in the least
I beg to differ.
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Setanian
02.23.2012 , 05:11 PM | #610
Quote: Originally Posted by universeman View Post
Ok, we're really stretching things here. Do you use a companion 100% of the time in game?
Yes

Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Do you ever use more than 1 companion at a time?
Yes
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