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2/22/2012 -> Can we get an update on where the Combat Log is?

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2/22/2012 -> Can we get an update on where the Combat Log is?
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Taroen
02.23.2012 , 04:44 PM | #521
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hahaha. Awesome fellow, i wish i could adopt you and show you to my friends.
lmao!!!

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Forsbacka
02.23.2012 , 04:44 PM | #522
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Yes, of course with some practice and playing together. Anything else is not enjoyment anymore. Its frustration and agony and no longer a game but a job. 500 wipes is bordering on crazy train. Say 10-15 wipes?
On which difficulty level?

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Menisong
02.23.2012 , 04:45 PM | #523
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Yes, of course with some practice and playing together. Anything else is not enjoyment anymore. Its frustration and agony and no longer a game but a job. 500 wipes is bordering on crazy train. Say 10-15 wipes?
Don't pass off your opinion as fact. How miserable is your life? I am so glad I enjoy my "job" as that takes up so much of my time. I would suggest finding a job you enjoy, you seem to despise like a 1/3 of your life.

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sheisty
02.23.2012 , 04:45 PM | #524
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Man could think that nightmare modes are extremely hard and downed by 5% of raiders or so. That isnt the case right now.
This game is not for the 5%ers and it never was and it never will be. WoW is not even about this type of gameplay either.

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EternalFinality
02.23.2012 , 04:46 PM | #525
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Yes, of course with some practice and playing together. Anything else is not enjoyment anymore. Its frustration and agony and no longer a game but a job. 500 wipes is bordering on crazy train. Say 10-15 wipes?
This is brutal truth - that is not a sustainable model for end game content in an MMO.

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Arnathis
02.23.2012 , 04:46 PM | #526
Quote: Originally Posted by sheisty View Post
Thats the problem with wow though IMO. Its like a round robin of fail. Blizz makes challenging encounters, players make mods, which in bold red letters in the center of your screen, tell you what to do, so blizz has to make their encounters more difficult, players make new mods, blizz makes harder... Then the players QQ that content is too hard and quit. bizz nerfs everything to faceroll again.

You do not need this stuff in these games.
I understand what you're saying.

However, I think it's just the natural progression of things. Games are becoming more and more intricate. Mods and addons are part of the reason why. As a species we're advancing in technology. Eventually you'll just have to wear a headset and your thoughts will be immediately translated into action on your screen (maybe we won't even have screens?). Addons and mods are a step forward in gaming evolution. A clunky UI, fumbling around with tab target, point and click healing are all a step backward.

And just to be clear, I don't think any addons that trivialize a fights mechanics by making decisions for a player should be implemented and WoW does a decent job of making sure these never see the light of day. It would take diligence on the part of BW to make sure nobody is cheating but it can absolutely be done. Some may say DBM is one of these addons and I can somewhat agree with this, as long as there are visual and audible queues for different mechanics within a fight I can live with no DBM. However, healing addons and the addon in the vid that tracks my dots the way I want them to be tracked are all things that should be allowed.

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Forsbacka
02.23.2012 , 04:46 PM | #527
Quote: Originally Posted by sheisty View Post
This game is not for the 5%ers and it never was and it never will be. WoW is not even about this type of gameplay either.
Why even make 3 difficulty levels then if everyone is basically the same?

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sheisty
02.23.2012 , 04:46 PM | #528
Quote: Originally Posted by Menisong View Post
Don't pass off your opinion as fact. How miserable is your life? I am so glad I enjoy my "job" as that takes up so much of my time. I would suggest finding a job you enjoy, you seem to despise like a 1/3 of your life.
I enjoy my job as well. But i would rather be home playing video games.

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Taroen
02.23.2012 , 04:47 PM | #529
Quote: Originally Posted by sheisty View Post
This game is not for the 5%ers and it never was and it never will be. WoW is not even about this type of gameplay either.
Untrue. In fact, they reserve the hardest mode boss fights specifically for those that enjoy that type of challenge.

Your world where every boss could be zerged by a random group in greens is boring and lame. They have those bosses for you in normal modes.

Nightmare should be a LOT harder.

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Chewpaco
02.23.2012 , 04:47 PM | #530
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On "nightmare" mode yes. There is other modes for other people.
Wrong.

Guilds were taking down cutting edge content long before DPS parses were available. They will continue to take them down in the future.

Guilds are taking down the Nightmare Mode encounters now without a parse.

They will continue to do so in the future.

Min/maxing is not essential for anything. I repeat - add a target dummy with a parser, so you can optimize your spec and rotations if you need to.

Leave the social plague that infests other games - right where it is.