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Patch 1.2 will save the pvp or not ???

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Patch 1.2 will save the pvp or not ???
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Ewgal
02.23.2012 , 02:21 PM | #161
I actually think that the best way to sort out Ilum world PvP issues is simply to outmode the PvP content and put RvR worlds into the game.
May the farce be with you

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Jaramukhti
02.23.2012 , 03:46 PM | #162
Quote: Originally Posted by Yfelsung View Post
PvE content will always expire.

But well designed PvP content never does.

People have been playing Dust on CS for a decade or more.

I'm never going to touch GW2's PvE content, so I don't care how fast it gets eaten.

I don't do PvE.
That is awesome for gamers like you, who live for PvP, and don't intend to, nor need to, engage in PvE to enjoy your mmo - but there are just as many who see it the same way, only in reverse (PvE>PvP).

One of the reasons GW2 has the hype it does, as you pointed out, is because of its focus on equal PvP and PvE content. I am just saying, don't be surprised if you, a PvP enthusiast, end up trying to convince PvE players who have blown through all the content very quickly to stay. PvE gamers make up that server population, too.

Right now, I think GW2 is going to be very solid on the PvP side. I am just not convinced they will be able to appease the PvE crowd long enough between content additions to keep some from openly griping about it on forums like some are doing for SWTOR. It wouldn't surprise me at all if, months from release, we see similar threads to this pop up on the GW2 boards.

That's how the cookie crumbles in MMO titles.

Launch content always has a pretty short expiration date.
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Jaramukhti
02.23.2012 , 03:48 PM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by Ewgal View Post
I actually think that the best way to sort out Ilum world PvP issues is simply to outmode the PvP content and put RvR worlds into the game.
Personally, I would love to see RvR in SWTOR. I am just not sure it will happen (or at least not anytime soon).

I am definitely keeping a close eye on 1.2 to see what it brings to the table. Since we know next to nothing about the new Denova warzone, it is anybody's guess how it will set up once the patch is in.
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Winteria
02.23.2012 , 04:16 PM | #164
Quote: Originally Posted by Jaramukhti View Post
That is awesome for gamers like you, who live for PvP, and don't intend to, nor need to, engage in PvE to enjoy your mmo - but there are just as many who see it the same way, only in reverse (PvE>PvP).

One of the reasons GW2 has the hype it does, as you pointed out, is because of its focus on equal PvP and PvE content. I am just saying, don't be surprised if you, a PvP enthusiast, end up trying to convince PvE players who have blown through all the content very quickly to stay. PvE gamers make up that server population, too.

Right now, I think GW2 is going to be very solid on the PvP side. I am just not convinced they will be able to appease the PvE crowd long enough between content additions to keep some from openly griping about it on forums like some are doing for SWTOR. It wouldn't surprise me at all if, months from release, we see similar threads to this pop up on the GW2 boards.

That's how the cookie crumbles in MMO titles.

Launch content always has a pretty short expiration date.
Hopefully in GW2 ppl wont reach cap lvl of 80 in a week like many did in TOR...
Aside from the nice voice acting and storyline, SWTOR dont shine that much.

Lets say that GW2 will be a "normal" game with average pvp so if it reveal ultra awesome we'll be rewarded too much hype lead into deception.

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Daeborn
02.23.2012 , 04:34 PM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by Delavager View Post
I think it is very likely too late.
Pessimism doesn't need to be a Darkside trait you know.

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Daeborn
02.23.2012 , 04:37 PM | #166
Quote: Originally Posted by KantaUO View Post
What is this mass exodus you speak of? My server is still heavy during almost peak time...less than 5 min ques for wZ and multiple wz running at the same time on my 50. My alt 43 gets almost instant ques
Honestly I believe some here might be hired ranters. I really do think it's possible with all he shenanigans with online reviews as of late.

My server pop is down a tad, but not bad and most of the children were kicked out of my guild (200) long ago. We have one of the better PvP guilds and highest PvE of the bunch. Overall people like the game, and are honest about the problems it has too.

I've said my peace a few times to people who are just negative for want as for anything else.

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Lansang
02.23.2012 , 04:38 PM | #167
Quote: Originally Posted by Skeloss View Post
its normal people are leaving after free months or two....someone likes the game someone not its normal for every mmorpg
i just hit 50 and started 50 WZ.. it sucks when people can 3hit you and winning and loosing WZ is not about skills but its more about gear gap.. u cant enjoy when u keep getting a free win cuz u can 3 hit majority of the opposing team.. or when the opposing team is better geared and ur team mostly has undergeared players.. i dnt know ryt ow im thinking of quiting the game

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Daeborn
02.23.2012 , 04:41 PM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by Winteria View Post
Hopefully in GW2 ppl wont reach cap lvl of 80
GW2 will not have traditional leveling. Bad comparison because they are not even close to the same.

I will play GW2 also, but I am not going to do comparisons with TOR anymore than I do with WoW. And GW2 is as different there.

I maxed 85 on my Rouge in WoW in just over a month btw. I hit 50 in TOR in 3 weeks. Do the math...

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Gremlis
02.23.2012 , 04:42 PM | #169
As long as the devs have their little OP imp class nothing is ever going to get done. Just look at all the trailers and see what they were playing. Thats the reason NOTHING is getting done. Patch 1.2 is simply a pacifier they are sticking in your mouth while they are ramming something else up your behind. Until the imp devs want to change, nothing substantial is going to get done.

If they wanted to they could have handled factional imbalance by forcing an equal number till planet cap then ALL overflow goes to the next instance. But then the little OP dev classes wouldnt have rebs to zerg.
Gamers are predominantly problem solvers. Piss us off enough and we will eventually solve YOU.

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Jahor
02.23.2012 , 04:43 PM | #170
Only if they work hard on class balance.

And one-button spam skills have to go. I mean hey, where is the skill need when you just can perma press Heat Seaker or Lightning?

If you like this we can remove all other abilitys and just introduce AK-47 and M1A1 .. happy CS.
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