People who ninja for their companions

The issue here is that the NEED button *FORCES* anyone who hasn't also clicked NEED to PASS and completely eliminates their "chances" of getting the item.

This makes the GREED button useless and completely eliminates the usefulness of the system.

I can respect that, even though I disagree with the approach. My point is, if you're not willing to speak up, you should be prepared for the loot to go in a way you disagree with. If you're fine with that, then there's no problem.

I wish they would just rename the buttons to "want to use this in some way" and "want to sell this for profit". That would settle the debate

You're welcome. Check out the first link in my sig, I think you will enjoy it. I think more people need to be level headed and rational in their discussions.

I don't agree with that.

When you get tot he loot stage you have 3 choices. Need, greed, pass.

You and only you, decides which button to press. At that point everything is fair.

Now comes the debatable topics.

a) Is rolling need when you intend to put the item on a companion valid?
A: Yes it is. You have a valid need for that item, and you are entitled to roll how you wish.

b) Does the Healer have a right before rolling to the healer loot?
A: No they do not. They have no right to the gear until they win it.

c) If in b above, you 'need'ed for you companion, are you a ninja.
A: No you are not. You have a valid roll and a valid need.

d) Is waiting until the others have rolled, and then roll need to guarantee the item valid.
A: Valid yes, but morally wrong.

e) Is the person 'pass'ing on items fairer than the person rolling 'need'
A: No. Each have a fair choice, each makes it themselves.

f) Is NBG fairer than everyone 'need'ing.
A: Absolutely not. It just ensures that one class will get loot.

they sure do!!

I can only go by my experience in the game so far, which is my first mmo. In pretty much every group I've been in people have only needed for items their class can use. I have only had somebody need for an item not suited to their class once, and even that was a one off in a group I did three or four quests with.

With that experience behind me, I naturally assumed that only needing for items your character can use is the norm, and I don't really see the need to specify rules before grouping, especially considering the point I made earlier.

I agree, greedy people try to force other into rolling how they want so they can get more loot.

Actually, it's more like:

1) Gimme a chance
2) Let the other players decide if I have a chance
3) Don't want

There is a problem with that chart in your sig

In the first step, you announce you refuse to discuss if the other person cannot envision changing their mind. But what about yours?

Lets assume that you are wrong, and the other person is right, and knows beyond all doubt that he is right. Following the flowchart, you will never give him a chance to change your mind, because you will refuse to even discuss the matter. That's a very dogmatic approach to what should be a rational discussion

Sorry for the offtopic, but couldn't resist