Patch 1.2 will save the pvp or not ???

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Patch 1.2 will save the pvp or not ???

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Yfelsung

02.23.2012 , 12:57 PM \| #141	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBigBee the content got better...the community got worse in most of thos games I disagree, the content got worse. The classes became more unbalanced, they put in stupid noob friendly systems like diminishing returns (in WoW) or things like punishment systems in AoC. High tier PvP in WAR had bad instances, bad RvR lakes and bad class balance (the entire game became protect or kill the bright wizard) WoW added what after Vanilla? Arenas (gag), a handful of stupid new BGs (WSG is still the best BG in WoW and the only one worth playing), they ruined Alterac Valley. It's mostly because the original designers of WoW and WAR jumped ship from their respective companies after release. Do you know where the majority of original WoW and WAR designers now work? A company called ArenaNet.
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TheBigBee

02.23.2012 , 01:01 PM \| #142	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Yfelsung I disagree, the content got worse. The classes became more unbalanced, they put in stupid noob friendly systems like diminishing returns (in WoW) or things like punishment systems in AoC. High tier PvP in WAR had bad instances, bad RvR lakes and bad class balance (the entire game became protect or kill the bright wizard) WoW added what after Vanilla? Arenas (gag), a handful of stupid new BGs (WSG is still the best BG in WoW and the only one worth playing), they ruined Alterac Valley. It's mostly because the original designers of WoW and WAR jumped ship from their respective companies after release. Do you know where the majority of original WoW and WAR designers now work? A company called ArenaNet. I played vanilla wow....i agree with you 100% WSG was best.....old school AV was a blast same game would go on for days AV didnt change the players did and it became a lets just win it fast so we get free epics....while the old school players were happy just smashing face
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Wakamama

02.23.2012 , 01:04 PM \| #143	Quote
imo, only small scale ranked pvp will save/balance the game (e.g ranked arena games). with arena match's class balance will be next cos it will be easier for devs to monitor OP classed due to ranked system. e.g: if 90% of top 20 ranked team are class X/ class X/class Y then they are "somehow forced" to dig in to it and balance that class.
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Yfelsung

02.23.2012 , 01:04 PM \| #144	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBigBee I played vanilla wow....i agree with you 100% WSG was best.....old school AV was a blast same game would go on for days AV didnt change the players did and it became a lets just win it fast so we get free epics....while the old school players were happy just smashing face Um, AV did change. Old AV had NPCs, and lots of them, all over the place. Elite NPCs. Old AV could take 4+ hours to win because of the NPCs. Once they removed all the NPCs other than the important ones, AV died. The first AV match on Shadow Council ever lasted over 8 hours.
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TheBigBee

02.23.2012 , 01:05 PM \| #145	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Wakamama imo, only small scale ranked pvp will save/balance the game (e.g ranked arena games). with arena match's class balance will be next cos it will be easier for devs to monitor OP classed due to ranked system. e.g: if 90% of top 20 ranked team are class X/ class X/class Y then they are "somehow forced" to dig in to it and balance that class. you cant balance pvp in an mmo for small scale unless you make everyone the same NO THANKS
PUT YOUR HELMET ON !!!

TheBigBee

02.23.2012 , 01:07 PM \| #146	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Yfelsung Um, AV did change. Old AV had NPCs, and lots of them, all over the place. Elite NPCs. Old AV could take 4+ hours to win because of the NPCs. Once they removed all the NPCs other than the important ones, AV died. The first AV match on Shadow Council ever lasted over 8 hours. you prob played longer then I did in wow so i dont remember the change your talking about.....I always remember the NPCs
PUT YOUR HELMET ON !!!

Yfelsung

02.23.2012 , 01:07 PM \| #147	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Wakamama imo, only small scale ranked pvp will save/balance the game (e.g ranked arena games). with arena match's class balance will be next cos it will be easier for devs to monitor OP classed due to ranked system. e.g: if 90% of top 20 ranked team are class X/ class X/class Y then they are "somehow forced" to dig in to it and balance that class. I have no problem with 4 v 4 Warzones, but not single elimination death match. Death match is too noob friendly, it requires a lot less strategy than forcing 8 people to battle over an objective.
MHORDSUNG SOULGRINDER, LEGATUS OF PHOBOS LEGION At the end of days the dragon stands tall and with limitless rage it illuminates all.

Winteria

02.23.2012 , 01:08 PM \| #148	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBigBee I played vanilla wow....i agree with you 100% WSG was best.....old school AV was a blast same game would go on for days AV didnt change the players did and it became a lets just win it fast so we get free epics....while the old school players were happy just smashing face As for vanilla WoW I remember how epic was Molten core the first time we fought Golemag for exemple, and the BG were WSG, AB and later on AV that was about the best pvp I had with EvE online...

TheBigBee

02.23.2012 , 01:09 PM \| #149	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Winteria As for vanilla WoW I remember how epic was Molten core the first time we fought Golemag for exemple, and the BG were WSG, AB and later on AV that was about the best pvp I had with EvE online... and waiting for a raid group to go to MC and kill them as they were going down.....yes it was fun lol but that was not by game design thats just what we (the community) did
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Winteria

02.23.2012 , 01:12 PM \| #150	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Yfelsung Um, AV did change. Old AV had NPCs, and lots of them, all over the place. Elite NPCs. Old AV could take 4+ hours to win because of the NPCs. Once they removed all the NPCs other than the important ones, AV died. The first AV match on Shadow Council ever lasted over 8 hours. Old AV was the best ! We even had some program to "premade" if you remember So everyone in the group was fully in the fight, everyone had a role, some on Def some on Capping and some in frontline. Alot of fun.

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