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Patch 1.2 will save the pvp or not ???

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Patch 1.2 will save the pvp or not ???

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Rakimou
02.23.2012 , 12:34 PM | #131
What PVP?
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MPagano
02.23.2012 , 12:36 PM | #132
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBigBee View Post
The community is what makes pvp fun not the game creators
You've just invalidated any point you make regarding pvp. there's just no way you can grasp the intimate relationship between game design and the economics of player choice in an MMO.

How about I invent a game where my character has a beat stick and you and your entire team can't damage me. I hope the community makes the pvp fun! Lord knows that i can't impact that as the designer of the game.

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TheBigBee
02.23.2012 , 12:39 PM | #133
Quote: Originally Posted by Yfelsung View Post
The game makers still have to give us the variety and systems to make PvP enjoyable.

Right now we have 3 Warzones, one of which is terribly designed and an open world PvP zone that is, bar none, the worst open world PvP zone I've ever experienced.

This is another PvE game with PvP tacked on, and I hoped it wouldn't be, I really did.

For someone like me who is literally incapable of enjoying PvE, this game doesn't have much for me at this point.
Dont know how many MMOs you have played from the ground up...I can tell you most of them get better with age

I have alot of hope for this game....voidstar is my least fav wz......huttball is one of the most fun wzs i have played in an mmo
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Garbald
02.23.2012 , 12:43 PM | #134
While the community can make a good game even better the foundation has to be laid by the designers...
and currently with lag and abysmal fps the majority of players just canīt enjoy ilum and are only there for the dailies and gone as soon as they finish.

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Yfelsung
02.23.2012 , 12:48 PM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBigBee View Post
Dont know how many MMOs you have played from the ground up...I can tell you most of them get better with age

I have alot of hope for this game....voidstar is my least fav wz......huttball is one of the most fun wzs i have played in an mmo
See, Alderaan is the one I think is designed like balls. The instant reinforcement speeders and the "click to capture" mechanic are terrible.

And most MMOs I've played got worse with age.

WoW's PvP was awesome in Vanilla and started sucking more with every expansion.

WAR's PvP was best in T1, second best in T2 and then became horrible in T3 and T4.

AoC's PvP got better, slightly, but was still terrible.

DAoC's best PvP was in there from almsot the start, the stuff they added later wasn't nearly as good as the original stuff.

I honestly can't think of an MMO where PvP got better with time.
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TheBigBee
02.23.2012 , 12:50 PM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by MPagano View Post
You've just invalidated any point you make regarding pvp. there's just no way you can grasp the intimate relationship between game design and the economics of player choice in an MMO.

How about I invent a game where my character has a beat stick and you and your entire team can't damage me. I hope the community makes the pvp fun! Lord knows that i can't impact that as the designer of the game.
Your not to bright are you....community makes the game fun

and if you made that game where you had a beat stick and noone could kill you....sounds like spy hunt... in a FPS i played......except the beat stick was a chaingun

back to the part about game designers
um yea they make content..... enjoyable is to each there own
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Winteria
02.23.2012 , 12:51 PM | #137
Quote: Originally Posted by Yfelsung View Post
See, Alderaan is the one I think is designed like balls. The instant reinforcement speeders and the "click to capture" mechanic are terrible.

And most MMOs I've played got worse with age.

WoW's PvP was awesome in Vanilla and started sucking more with every expansion.

WAR's PvP was best in T1, second best in T2 and then became horrible in T3 and T4.

AoC's PvP got better, slightly, but was still terrible.

DAoC's best PvP was in there from almsot the start, the stuff they added later wasn't nearly as good as the original stuff.

I honestly can't think of an MMO where PvP got better with time.
+1

And yes I might reroll on another server If and only if that 1.2 patch is worth playing again.

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Crujido
02.23.2012 , 12:52 PM | #138
Yes, to a degree.

I think it will give people a reason to actually play instead of doing dalies and logging off.

Competititon will surely get better.
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TheBigBee
02.23.2012 , 12:53 PM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by Yfelsung View Post
See, Alderaan is the one I think is designed like balls. The instant reinforcement speeders and the "click to capture" mechanic are terrible.

And most MMOs I've played got worse with age.

WoW's PvP was awesome in Vanilla and started sucking more with every expansion.

WAR's PvP was best in T1, second best in T2 and then became horrible in T3 and T4.

AoC's PvP got better, slightly, but was still terrible.

DAoC's best PvP was in there from almsot the start, the stuff they added later wasn't nearly as good as the original stuff.

I honestly can't think of an MMO where PvP got better with time.
the content got better...the community got worse in most of thos games
PUT YOUR HELMET ON !!!

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Garbald
02.23.2012 , 12:54 PM | #140
Well I heard wars pvp now is actually enjoyable
As for daoc, it was actually a pretty big mess at the start (first month), no cc immunity for example, clerics where the most feared 1vs1 class ever ^^
So for daoc I would say up until toa it actually did get better with some balancing bumps here and there (savage for example).
Then with toa and new frontiers they just dropped the ball completely.

For example adding battlegrounds for lower levels was a HUGE improvement for most people, you could actually do some fun pvp during leveling up.