2/22/2012 -> Can we get an update on where the Combat Log is?

Vice versa, you want it to change for your reasons, and I want it to stay the same for mine. When the game changes both will be effected, for reasons already discussed.

I was asking you to elaboraate, since earlier you in fact said playing with others would in fact solve some of it. I was asking you to elaborate on the "most" you responed to later.

But yes, I do believe that if you actually group with like minded players and actually play and enjoy the game...it will solve most of your problems.

However, I know that most players that play for "fun" as it is put, WANT to play at a certain level(reap the rewards) without actually PLAYING at that level. They want to play at a level that requires certain "things" while they jsut want to play however, whenever, whatever and still be included.

I'm 100% certain Ragnarok in it's history never had any form of combat log when it was actually popular. It was also one of the most fun games I've ever played until constant fail patches some years ago started to ruin it (and it also started to show it's age). Maybe private servers had logs, but officials never ever did.

And don't tell me it's a small game, because 60 mil worldwide players at the peak of it's popularity isn't a small number by any kind of measure (not even wow's). Just because most of the players were from Japan and no-one in the west knows about it doesn't mean much to me.

Could be for some, I know it's not for me. Logs for me have nothing to do with playing at a "level". It has to do with the adverse effects as I see them of having all the numbers displayed out in front of you. The game is playable and is fun and viable without them. I don't see a need for the game to have them. I do recognize that players want them to know the unknown, but that IMO is just a personal choice that takes no precedence over my personal choice.

you have yet to prove why adding combat logs...which you could totally not use, would impede your game play.

Jeezus, im lucky if i run into a dozen other republic players in any given day in this game...and your worried that (if we have combat logs) they aren't going to let you play with them because you refuse to acknowledge that your dmg sucks, even when you have to tools to look at why your dmg sucks and fix it.

this is why i wont recognize your argument. its hardly and argument.

My point is what you just describes, you have COMPLETE control over. You are under NO circumstances to use a combat log....NONE. You and like minded players are able to enjoy the game 100% on your terms, with like minded players.

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But we've gone over this. Repeating the same thing over and over isn't getting us anywhere.

Well, no that's not what I want, and I've said as much in my responses on this thread. You're projecting what you believe is true in your opinion onto me. You've got a closed mind on this topic and refuse to accept anything anyone else says.

-nods-

But we've gone over this. Repeating the same thing over and over isn't getting us anywhere.

Ok, so what ur saying is is that you can in fact enjoy the game on your terms WITH a combat log and are doing exaclty what the other poster claims...simpy want to keep it out at the expense of others.