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This is for people talking smack on "missle spammers"

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This is for people talking smack on "missle spammers"

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Lerdoc
02.23.2012 , 08:52 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Labradoraki View Post
stopped reading there, sorry ot break this to you but you are not pwning them, you are abusing broken balance to feel you are pwning them which isnt far from cheating, its just a legal way to cheat xD
Didn't you QQ in one of your threads that tracer missile needs buffs?

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thanealpha
02.23.2012 , 08:54 AM | #32
Try playing a Sentinel.

Heh...if people like easymode gameplay let them have it.

My only problem is when the missle spammer somehow does more damage than I do dancing and weaving and going through far more complex and dynamic attack sequences.

As long as it's relatively balanced I'm fine with people being able to choose a 1 key class.

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Badlander
02.23.2012 , 09:02 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by khajak View Post
Im tired of people talking smack on bh/trooper dps tracer/grav round spammers.
people on my server even send my angry whispers in wzs because im pwning them. My rep on both pub and sith cause whole teams to hunt me down because i destroy them that much. first off. lvl 10-44. ive invested a lot of creds buying the best gear i can possibly obtain. im sith btw so i dont know anything about the trooper counterpart. not only having gear. ive read the trees and put together a pretty awesome build imo. k. first off. you need to spam tracer because if you have it specced in your tree. it stacks debuffs on the target. 5 stacks. which then sets up for unload. rail shot or heat seeking missles. so people that sit there and say we missle spam. well thats how it works. if u know how to play anyway. sorcs force lightning spam. dot and run spam. Snipers spam. everyone spams some sort of attack in a way. As a bh. i use tracer shot. fusion missle. rail shot. death from above. heat seeking missles and of course tracer missle. I love rocket punch. its my fav. can u just spam tracer? yes but you will not be a great player and probably get pwned. why doesnt anyone cry about all the other classes spams? its the way the game is made. i dont cry about force pull and sprint because thats what they chose to play. you people need to stop pvping if you cant accept the classes people chose to play. i laugh when the wz is all sorcs. anyways. bh/troopers are more than just missle spammers. so if yer crying. roll a bh and see for yourself before you accuse.
First..wall of text needs a nerf.

Second..i have a BH and it is easy mode compared to my Marauder. I never play my BH cuz i find it BORING.
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genesiser
02.23.2012 , 09:06 AM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by hadoken View Post
All of it, actually. It does not do more damage because it is not a tech attack (and thus can be defended against) and does not proc everything like grav round does. Gunnery specced commandos should never use charged bolts except when interrupted (and even then, that's iffy because if it's by a melee they should be getting out of the way).
I'll use my own commando tooltips to show you what I'm talking about.

Demo round does more damage for each stack of grav round on the target. Once you have 5 stacks, or use it 3 times, it'll always do 25% more dmg till it wears off which is 15 seconds, so you every 15 seconds you use it once after all stacks are applied.

Grav round does 1361-1411 dmg
Charged bolts does 1342-1686 dmg.

The talent that gives you a 10% damage reduction when using grav round 5 times also works with charged bolts.

The talent that gives you a 30% chance to reset the cd of full auto and make it do 25% more dmg works with grav round and charged bolts.


The only thing it doesn't proc is the increased HIB damage. HIB does 1209-1499 dmg. 25% more dmg would make it do 1511-1873. Or in other words, an extra 302-374 damage after using grav round 5 times. Charged bolts has a high damage range of an extra 270 damage. 5 of those is 1350.

Grav round does get affected by armor as does charged bolts. However the way armor piercing ammo works is instead of bypassing 35% armor, it actually bypasses 35% damage reduction. So if you fight a target with less than 35% dmg reduction, charged bolts will not do reduced damage, which is the same as grav round.

The only time grav round is better than charged bolts is when you fight a tank type char that can block or evade. Grav round has the bonus of not being able to be evaded or shielded which is why it's better to use that on tanks. But on everyone else, or people that don't block or have a high evasion chance, charged bolts is the superior option.

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drdarpa
02.23.2012 , 09:12 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by khajak View Post
Im tired of people talking smack on bh/trooper dps tracer/grav round spammers.
people on my server even send my angry whispers in wzs because im pwning them. My rep on both pub and sith cause whole teams to hunt me down because i destroy them that much. first off. lvl 10-44. ive invested a lot of creds buying the best gear i can possibly obtain. im sith btw so i dont know anything about the trooper counterpart. not only having gear. ive read the trees and put together a pretty awesome build imo. k. first off. you need to spam tracer because if you have it specced in your tree. it stacks debuffs on the target. 5 stacks. which then sets up for unload. rail shot or heat seeking missles. so people that sit there and say we missle spam. well thats how it works. if u know how to play anyway. sorcs force lightning spam. dot and run spam. Snipers spam. everyone spams some sort of attack in a way. As a bh. i use tracer shot. fusion missle. rail shot. death from above. heat seeking missles and of course tracer missle. I love rocket punch. its my fav. can u just spam tracer? yes but you will not be a great player and probably get pwned. why doesnt anyone cry about all the other classes spams? its the way the game is made. i dont cry about force pull and sprint because thats what they chose to play. you people need to stop pvping if you cant accept the classes people chose to play. i laugh when the wz is all sorcs. anyways. bh/troopers are more than just missle spammers. so if yer crying. roll a bh and see for yourself before you accuse.
Damn bro, you spam that wall of text like you do OMGTRASER MISSEL!!1!1!!!

Why is it that every time one of you single button mashing monkeys come on here and defend your single-button, low/no skill class, you rarely capitalize/punctuate/apply paragraphs appropriately?

Furthermore, I usually let you guys fill the bar on OMGTRASER MISSEL!!!11!1!!1!! before I interrupt you (No, I don't play sorc, I play a guardian), because it looks like you guys are trying to squeeze out a gigantic turd.



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Forthehonor
02.23.2012 , 09:15 AM | #36
To be honest my opinion on this is that sure you might get more dps by clicking more than 1 button as a tracer-dude, but you can achieve good amounts of dps just by spamming tracer missiles, that is why everyone complains.

TL;DR To achieve optimal damage you will need to click more than 1 button, but clicking one button will give fine dps.

(refer to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUUWIgm5ssE for some kinda proof)

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mjohnsonfhk
02.23.2012 , 09:34 AM | #37
i love how all mercs are lumped together.

As a hybrid merc i have to use a myriad of different abilities. im usually 50% heal 50% dps.

90% of my dps attacks are going to be tracers. Why would i possibly use anything else ? REALLY I DIDNT KNOW TRACER ROUND HEALED FOR 150 K.

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khajak
02.23.2012 , 09:44 AM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Badlander View Post
First..wall of text needs a nerf.

Second..i have a BH and it is easy mode compared to my Marauder. I never play my BH cuz i find it BORING.
First off. My main is a lvl 50 Battlemaster Marauder. Your point? I find my Bh a lot more fun to play.

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astrocanis
02.23.2012 , 09:50 AM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by khajak View Post
I stopped reading at your i dance in their dead bodies. anyways ive taken on 3 people at once and killed them. so youve killed bhs on yer server. doesnt mean yer gonna kill all of them one on one. so anyways. next.
Loosely translated, "I sniped other players' kills while they were distracted and used that to inflate my ego to the point that I felt the need to post about my greatness."

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doctorfirepants
02.23.2012 , 09:53 AM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by Kentontudor View Post
And you are the reason it gets a bad rep. Because you have no idea how it's played. You played BH until about level 35, and then rerolled easy mode Sorcerer.

Please play Battlemaster level PvP and then come back and tell me if it's the easiest class to play. You are wrong. It's arguably the hardest, behind Snipers.
Wow, did you really just say that battlemaster BH is the hardest class to play behind sniper. You truly are clueless aren't you.
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