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Vanguard/Powertech shared tree BURST is OP

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Vanguard/Powertech shared tree BURST is OP

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Tqyy
02.23.2012 , 05:41 AM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Halofax View Post
I think what you meant to say is...

1: Healer tree Sage/Sorc
roflmao

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Xerain
02.23.2012 , 05:42 AM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Halofax View Post
I think what you meant to say is...

1: Healer tree Sage/Sorc
lol um no... they get wrecked by a mara/sent, not even kidding.

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Halofax
02.23.2012 , 05:44 AM | #73
I dont think you guys have seen a good healer Sage/Sorc before then...

Dots -> shield -> heal -> dots -> shield -> heal

I mean, i get it, most of you play empire and deal with a larger comparative population of bad players...

Not as in the Republic is better, just that more players = more bad players by percentage.

But really. Assault Vanguard isnt even the 5th hardest hitting dps class, and this nonsense is on us now too.

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Affics
02.23.2012 , 05:45 AM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Halofax View Post
I think what you meant to say is...

1: Healer tree Sage/Sorc
Healer tree no way, build like 7/18/16 maybe.
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Halofax
02.23.2012 , 05:45 AM | #75
For 1v1?

You obviously have bad healers on your server.

ETA

Or it could be because your European server is extremely high population an everyone on the Empire side is sporting full BM gear.

I dont live in entitlement land where everyone gets free gear and complains about maintenance times.

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Halofax
02.23.2012 , 05:51 AM | #76
Anyways i'm going to watch pawn stars.

If i get nerfed i'll get over it. Maybe go back tank or something.

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Xerain
02.23.2012 , 06:07 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Halofax View Post
Anyways i'm going to watch pawn stars.

If i get nerfed i'll get over it. Maybe go back tank or something.
i don't think PT's need nerfed at all... i've never seen said burst dps like that from them.

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BobaFurz
02.23.2012 , 08:07 AM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by tkshinoda View Post
I play a vanguard (assault spec) ya we might have high burst vs equally geared, and very high burst vs low geared targets, but what you say there is a lie, vs battle-master geared people and my 560 or so expertise i rarely get over 2.7k crits, so whatever you are smoking please pass it along.

What you clearly do not understand as a Vanguard/Powertech full dps spec we sacrifice virtually all our survivability, our survivability comes from killing targets before they kill us, while other classes have "Get out of jail free cards" be it vanish/force speed etc etc, we have 1, 25% damage reduction for 12 seconds, once that goes we are free frags for any team with half a brain.
Burst doesnt mean just only one single crit from one ability.
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Dharagada
02.23.2012 , 08:21 AM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by mufutiz View Post
that's one of the problems with the class.

it's too easy to outplay people, literally anybody is able to because the class is so simple to use effectively.

the only reason pt/vg hybrids don't catch the same flak sc/op did and hybrid sorcs/sages still do is because they are a)not as obvious and b)slightly underplayed
If your playing a hybrid spec you trade off the burst (that the OP is greatly exaggerating about) for more defense and a bit of extra mobility.

If your fully pyro yeah you can get off a chain of attacks that hit hard (assuming you get lucky on procs), your also one of the easiest (if not the easiest) classes to focus down in the game, with zero mobility and only one useful survival cool down.

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lijahrobinson
02.23.2012 , 08:32 AM | #80
I play the same shared tree on the Mercenary side. I usually get 6-12k burst in 3 sec and i don't feel its out of line with the other DPS classes. I am lacking about half the battlemaster gear i believe and am sitting at ~670 expertise. I have been playing this tree for a long while and i dont feel its overpowered.