People leaving wz is now out of control.

The problem though is that a lot of people do not choose to leave, but are kicked by the system anyway, such as not having speeders spawn anymore for you in Alderaan.

I loathe to think of what would happen to a lot of players that do not want to leave warzones, but are forced out if any of the suggestions in this thread were to go live.

You don't deserve to play a mmo with that attitude.

What you think your poop don't stink or something?

Yea that just happened.

Whatever.

People leaving warzones are a symptom, not the problem. Stop trying to treat the symptom. Address WHY they're leaving.

Once again, I doubt I'm the one who doesn't "deserve" to play in this scenario.

Aye if you are 100% sure your team is going to lose its best to use remaining time for practice/fragging instead quitting. Only time i leave WZ:s is if i have some RL things interrupting palying or randiom DC:s, othervise i stick to it no matter how bad it is.

PS: Whats with the "must complete pvp daily" does it give something neat at lvl50? because if it stays same as it is under lvl50 i dont see point in even doing it. Personally im currently skipping it as i already lvlup way too fast for my liking.

I play games to pretend to be something im not . I confuse old people with riddles because its fun.

I leave warzones. I leave a lot of warzones. I play an Annihilation specced Sith Marauder.
I also am not part of a guild and only solo queue for warzones. I am picky about guilds and have not found one that seems to suit me as of yet. Ill be using anecdotal evidence of my play experiences to explain why I do this. Everything in this post is personal observation, conjecture and opinion.


I only have a limited amount of time to play (4-5 hours a night). Therefore I have to maximize my time. I have to do my flight, belsalvis, and Ilum PVP/PVE dailies. Which all together take about 2-2.5 hours. On slow nights it can take up to 3 hours. This is all stuff I need to get done before I even attempt to step into a warzone. Now I have to WIN 3 warzones.

I do not believe I am the typical warzone leaver or maybe I am don't know. I don't leave if the match is close. If I believe the match is close I will stay and fight it out. I don't go into warzones to farm people for medals. In huttball I am not afraid to grab the ball and run with it. I proactively look for people to pass to. I will note where the enemy team is and deliberatly NOT run in that direction. If I get in a game with a premade team who are actively grabbing the ball I will help control center so the other team can't ninja a score. I actively go after ball carriers and their healers and will call out and mark healers. I can keep goin but in all battle grounds I play for objectives I'm not there to farm medals nor have 700k dmg done. I believe I am the type of pugger/player that is rather desirable in WZ. I do not walk into a warzone see the other team and say yep Im out and leave.

On my realm pvp queues are over run with premades. About 80-90% of the warzones have some form of premade in it whether they are on your side or the other or even both.
Its great when you have one in there with you and you hope they are at least semicompetent and the other team does not have one, its almost an assured win.

I also believe the medal system is horrible. You seem to get more medals for ignoring what you should be doing to win the WZ and seem to get them for derping around just trying to kill people. This leads to people actively ignoring objectives to get medals. Hey we are probably goin to lose but hey I got 9 medals so my valor and commendation gain is great!

Some days I get lucky. I walk in play 4-5 close games and am done for the day. Other days and this happens quite often so often I started keeping count. I will play 20 games before I reach my 3 wins. In those 20 game days I usually leave about 14 of them. As noted previously I don't usually just walk in and leave I spend enough time to determine if it will be a worthwhile endeavor. If its a premade that I've ran into before that I know runs rampant and then farms I'll leave right away.

I'll just give you a bit of math now so if I hadn't left those warzones and stayed all the way through and assuming most warzones take approximately 20 mins so 20 * 20 is 400 mins or roughly 6-7 hours. That is unacceptable. I value my time and that would be more time than I would be able to play a night. Also I am not exaggerating when I say some times it does take 20 tries.

Some people have bandied about people being selfish and inconsiderate for leaving warzones. I think they are a few fries short of a happy meal. I'm sorry but I value my time. I only have so many hours of leisure a day I like to make the most of it. Its unfortunate you obviously do not value your time. I also believe its rather selfish of you to try and push your views on warzones onto people who do not agree with you.

The system itself is broken. Adding a timer is a bandaide fix at best and will not change the core problems. Which in my opinion are basically premades, the medal system and the fact you have to WIN 3 games a day.

If they do implement a timer I guess I can always do what all the other cool kids are doing and attempt to farm people for medals instead of actually attempting to win the game or just randomly run around. Gratz though guys you managed to get someone to stay in that warzone even though they don't want to be there even if I'll be practically useless since I'll be entertaining myself by watching tv or something. Its kind of a snide thing to do but hey the offchance that we win great and if we lose enough I can turn in commendations for bags.

I think this is a horrible idea. It sounds like you'll be doing rewards based on participation only. . .which to me just sounds wrong.

Looking at it from a PvE perspective. . .that's like a group wiping at the first group of trash mobs(or even the final boss), and yet they still get a piece of gear for their efforts and just showing up.

It sounds like you want a pay to win game. . .instead of rewards based on skill and accomplishing your goal.

If you want, I can point you to a couple pay to win MMOs out there. It might make your ego feel better when you can plop down a couple bucks to get an advantage so you can get your daily done with minimal effort.

You talk as if you're REQUIRED to do your dailies each and every day. This is just not the case. You may WANT to get them done from a "completionist" standpoint. . .but it certainly isn't required.

I think the people that play this game just to 'win' and nothing more needs to reevaluate what they expect from a video game. I agree in the spirit of competition that we all want to win and want to do good. . .but it certainly isn't what makes a game fun.

I dunno how many times I've ran around a corner in Huttball to heal myself up, only to see someone follow me and take me out. But I laugh about it. They were at the right place at the right time. Same thing happens when I lose a 1v1, I enjoy the battle(even when I lose) and usually laugh about it since it's a game and it's fun.

Well said. Even when your team is being farmed in Huttball, you can still earn medals too! Yes it can be annoying when it's 5v1 every time you spawn, but it'll only make you a better player if you stick it out and try new tactics

To all the stuff in orange... What?