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2/22/2012 -> Can we get an update on where the Combat Log is?

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2/22/2012 -> Can we get an update on where the Combat Log is?
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Hanscholo
02.22.2012 , 08:17 PM | #31
Its not a priority and nor should it be.

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Emeda
02.22.2012 , 08:22 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Hanscholo View Post
Its not a priority and nor should it be.
Nothing is a priority in this game to get fixed.
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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Sky_walkerPL
02.22.2012 , 08:26 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Hanscholo View Post
Its not a priority and nor should it be.
This.

this QQing from people who think they cannot improve their character or blame someone for loosing withouth combat log is getting boring.
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Aethyriel
02.22.2012 , 09:08 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Sky_walkerPL View Post
This.

this QQing from people who think they cannot improve their character or blame someone for loosing withouth combat log is getting boring.
You can improve... well, you can guess you've improved but you never have the data to back it up. You can't do math without numbers, feeling * (stylefactor * biggest numbers comes first)= dps is not that awesome to work with.

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Tiaa
02.22.2012 , 09:28 PM | #35
Hey, I don't think the combat log is a big deal.

I just find it strange this is the only MMO I have played without one.

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Evilidea
02.22.2012 , 09:44 PM | #36
Unneeded crap for people who use too much of their right side brain or was it left
I don't remember, squirrel...

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Arnathis
02.22.2012 , 10:09 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by TheHoodedFang View Post
There was a time in your gaming life that you didn't even know what the abbreviation DPS meant.

Instead, you improved over time and learned how things work, just like anything else in life.

Trying to single someone out as being "bad" when they are simply inexperienced and could use some practice/advice is exactly the attitude that has turned these games from a primarily social beast into a cesspool for youngsters to swim around in and splash all the adults.
OR

without them the people that are "bad" never realize they're bad and thus never do anything to improve their performance.

without them competitive raiding is non existent, which would be bad for the game in the long run

without them competitive pvp is non existent, which would be bad for the game in the long run

players never really know what their particular class does well (aoe/single target) compared to other classes, making optimizing for a given encounter the same as throwing a dart blindfolded

because optimization for encounters isn't truly possible, encounters need to be kept simple and extremely forgiving as they are now...boring

the player base is ignorant to the severity of class imbalance and therefore what should normally be obvious fixes (nerfs/buffs) go unaddressed because BW doesn't have people on their case about it. player feedback is important, even if it is often no more than whining

players that are used to having logs from playing almost any MMO of the past decade become frustrated by not being able to analyze themselves or others in order to make improvements and slowly but surely go back to a game that allows them to

WHICH SCENARIO WOULD YOU PREFER?

In order to spare their feelings the "bads" get to continue being bad at other players expense?

OR

We add combat logs and the "bads" are occasionally held accountable for their lack of interest in being decent at the game but we get to avoid all the negative results of no combat logs I listed above?

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jarjarloves
02.22.2012 , 10:16 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Cancrizans View Post
What's up you guys having trouble clearing the content without combat logs lol?
I lol'd

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Arnathis
02.22.2012 , 10:21 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Cancrizans View Post
What's up you guys having trouble clearing the content without combat logs lol?
Nah vice versa, problem is the content is too easy. It HAS to be faceroll easy because we don't have simple features like a combat log or a decent UI with things like target of target and focus target target.

Bored to death of it already. Many people enjoy the numbers game and being able to compare classes down to the smallest detail. It adds another immersion level for many many people. The people that don't care can go on not caring.

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Degarmo
02.22.2012 , 10:29 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by Arnathis View Post
Nah vice versa, problem is the content is too easy. It HAS to be faceroll easy because we don't have simple features like a combat log or a decent UI with things like target of target and focus target target.

Bored to death of it already. Many people enjoy the numbers game and being able to compare classes down to the smallest detail. It adds another immersion level for many many people. The people that don't care can go on not caring.
Until the inevitable intrusion from all angles comes in, forcing those who don't care to care or otherwise be kicked to the curb due to comparative number crunching which may or may not be done with proper scientific methodology. Sure, some folks do it very, very well - others enjoy having a bottom-line number to be exclusionary.

Either way, it still changes things for everyone. It changes how content is developed and how groups are made. It helps to change attitudes, and in some cases it brings out very good teachers, but it also can bring out very bad behaviors.

So, all in all, it's not just something that's put in and then used by a part of the populace. It eventually becomes the all-consuming factor in grouping, development and even guild acceptance.

I say this only because of other MMO experiences where I have seen it happen in the community. All in all, it's a good tool, but even the best of tools can be used poorly or improperly.

I was trying to get both sides of the argument there, not sure I did. At any rate, that's a piece of my opinion.
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