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Maintenance times unfair to West coasters.

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Maintenance times unfair to West coasters.

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CaptRavenous
02.22.2012 , 07:13 PM | #131
Yeah, yeah, interruptions for fixing the game and making sure it runs as smooth as possible.

HOW DARE THEY! ROUND UP A POSSE AND GET A ROPE!! I'LL BRING THE TORCHES AND OIL!!!

***** occurs. If life were fair, none of you would be complaining about anything.

How boring would that be?!

Go spend time with a human being that isn't 1000 miles away and nowhere near as hot as you would like them to be IRL.

Someone out there must love you, as hard as that might be to imagine. Go spend time with him/her/them. Come back and play when maintenance time comes.

And be thankful they seem so intent on fixing/maintaining this game, because it gives you a much needed break from playing for 15 hours straight, time enough for, you know, some life.
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Oneirophrenia
02.22.2012 , 07:19 PM | #132
Quote: Originally Posted by Nightfox_ View Post
I honestly don't see what any of you are whining about 'catering' to the east coast. Please read below:

Date: Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012

Time: 2AM CST (12AM PST/3AM EST/8AM GMT/9AM CET) to 9AM CST (7AM PST/10AM EST/3PM GMT/4PM CET).

Looks to me more like CST is being 'catered' to. Regardless, it has to happen sometime. God forbid I get up at 9 am and I can't play until 10 am EST, I'm not going to come on here and cry favoritism.
That doesn't mean anything. Doesn't matter which MMO it is, 3am-9am is often the most off-peak time during a day. Whichever way you slice it, EST is the only time zone that fits neatly into this period. BW most likely put emphasis onto CST is because the division of BW that runs SWTOR is based in Austin.

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Nightfox_
02.22.2012 , 07:24 PM | #133
Midnight to 7 am isn't offpeak? I mean really. I feel bad for the guy who can only play this game on tuesday night from 12 am to 7 am, and no other time whatsoever but maybe mmos just aren't for him. As for everyone else, I fail to see the issue. The mid morning one is when most people are at work/school so that is not peak time, and everyone else's is at night.

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Oneirophrenia
02.22.2012 , 07:30 PM | #134
Quote: Originally Posted by Nightfox_ View Post
Midnight to 7 am isn't offpeak? I mean really. I feel bad for the guy who can only play this game on tuesday night from 12 am to 7 am, and no other time whatsoever but maybe mmos just aren't for him. As for everyone else, I fail to see the issue. The mid morning one is when most people are at work/school so that is not peak time, and everyone else's is at night.
I've already said this once in this thread but I will repeat myself again. 1/3 of Americans do not work the traditional 9-5 schedule. I even provided several links as proof of that fact. The latest U.S. census data even supports it. Translation, the age old stereotype of working professionals being in bed by 11pm or midnight is a fallacy. This is the 21st century and we as a country has been shifting away from that traditional schedule for decades. Now to answer your question, no, midnight is not off-peak for a lot of people, certainly far more than the defenders of this current schedule would care to admit despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Don't join the crowd and bury your head in the sand.

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Shadpwfox
02.22.2012 , 07:35 PM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by HiberniaGUINXDO View Post
Yes I do have a concern, it's the servers going down at 12am for west coasters and I would like Bioware knows us here on the left of the country thinks it sucks.

But since we are making juvenile poorly thought out declarations as fact here's mine, You don't matter to anyone, sorry.
I live on the west coast, you do not speak for me. Just because this upsets YOU does not make it a valid concern
My worst fears are being buried alive or eaten by a shark.

Your life must be pretty good if yours only center around a video game.

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Nightfox_
02.22.2012 , 09:30 PM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by Oneirophrenia View Post
I've already said this once in this thread but I will repeat myself again. 1/3 of Americans do not work the traditional 9-5 schedule. I even provided several links as proof of that fact. The latest U.S. census data even supports it. Translation, the age old stereotype of working professionals being in bed by 11pm or midnight is a fallacy. This is the 21st century and we as a country has been shifting away from that traditional schedule for decades. Now to answer your question, no, midnight is not off-peak for a lot of people, certainly far more than the defenders of this current schedule would care to admit despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Don't join the crowd and bury your head in the sand.
Well, then by your logic there is no such thing as a perfect time for maintenance

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Barrakudah
02.22.2012 , 09:38 PM | #137
There will always be someone unhappy about maintenance times no matter what time they do it. The only real solution is to decrease the length of each downtime.

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itekazzawrrlic
02.22.2012 , 09:41 PM | #138
Quote: Originally Posted by HiberniaGUINXDO View Post
Seriously to the "get a life" trolls I worked a 16 hour shift today,

2am minimum has been the industry standard for every MMO todate and some of us have limited time to play.

If you don't have a problem with it fine, some of us actually do have lives as opposed to pretending to have one on a message board to belittle the simple request that they don't start maintenance in the middle of many players evening.


I live in Washington state it's 21 degrees tonight and it's raining you go outside in this crap.


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Dayfax
02.22.2012 , 09:42 PM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by Oneirophrenia View Post
I've already said this once in this thread but I will repeat myself again. 1/3 of Americans do not work the traditional 9-5 schedule.
And that's still the minority. Catering to the minority doesn't make sense, either.

This is a maybe 2-3 hour shift, west coast, from when other MMOs do maintenance. It's once a week. It's not a big deal.
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Oneirophrenia
02.23.2012 , 03:34 AM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by Dayfax View Post
And that's still the minority. Catering to the minority doesn't make sense, either.

This is a maybe 2-3 hour shift, west coast, from when other MMOs do maintenance. It's once a week. It's not a big deal.
What a statement. If you are American, do you even realize that you live in a representative republic that is suppose to prevent such absurd logic from taking root? Screw the minority, their needs and requirements mean nothing as long as the majority are happy. Is that really the basic premise behind your argument which you want to get across? I know that our current environment is rather toxic when it comes to the treatment of certain minority groups but at least try to raise yourself above that level. This logic is even more absurd when applied to the realm of business decisions. Why don't you start a business and go about alienating 1/3 of your potential customer base and see how long you can last. I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that suggestion.

As I have already said before, there is little reason for BW to commit themselves to this unified maintenance schedule non-sense. Can you or anyone else give me a good reason why BW should do it this way? Cost cutting doesn't qualify as a legitimate argument as anyone who has worked in the corporate world should know that is little more than a cop-out excuse designed to explain away a host of ridiculous actions. If one can't believe that excuse then, he can't conveniently accept it now. This is especially true since other MMOs have committed themselves to a staggered schedule while still remain profitable and stay in business thus SWTOR should not be the exception to the rule. Convenience perhaps? If you are a company that has to deal with paying customers on a round the clock basis, pardon the language but f*** your convenience. Your salary is paid for by the revenue generated from these clients so you should conform to a schedule that makes the most sense to them, not the other way around. I simply fail to see why BW shouldn't do the sensible thing here which is to let Europeans have their own 3am-9am maintenance schedule. This way, the U.S. maintenance schedule won't have to be tied down by that consideration thus can also be adjusted accordingly. Why should so many people have to make sacrifices towards a service they *paid for* when there is a perfectly reasonable alternative available that can further minimize the impact?

P.S: And it is not only *once* a week. The game has been out for all of 9 weeks (not counting pre-release) and how many of those weeks did we have unscheduled server down time? 4? 5? I can go back and count the patch notes but that seems about right. Yeah, you can say that it's a new game so emergency patches are sometimes necessary. I get that. However, what's going to happen when they release a major content update or expansion 3, 6 or even 12 months from now? Based on the history of MMOs in general, it is a rather good bet that pattern will repeat itself quite often. The issue is not as simple as you make it out to be.