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People leaving wz is now out of control.

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People leaving wz is now out of control.

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ScipioAemilianus
02.22.2012 , 12:03 PM | #381
they should take away coms as well as a 15 min debuff. like say lose 100 merc coms for bailing on your team. yeah you might lose conection, but I am sure the programers could see the difference between peopl ethat legitamatly hit the exit versus timed out or are flagged and do not enter into the pvp.

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Genocidalx
02.22.2012 , 12:23 PM | #382
Quote: Originally Posted by ScipioAemilianus View Post
they should take away coms as well as a 15 min debuff. like say lose 100 merc coms for bailing on your team. yeah you might lose conection, but I am sure the programers could see the difference between peopl ethat legitamatly hit the exit versus timed out or are flagged and do not enter into the pvp.
Why? What's your reasoning? What do you hope to accomplish by doing this? And how is your solution going to accomplish this?

I'll accept your solution if the same penalty applies to bads getting the boot for being bad or failing to carry their weight.

You guys seem to hate leavers and wish nobody would leave. I hate many "stayers" whom I wish would leave because they drag down the entire warzone. Why do we only want to punish the side that has an argument for doing everyone a favor? Logic is really sparse around here.

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Blavek
02.22.2012 , 12:28 PM | #383
Its a joke. People give up too easily and cant be bothered to fight back.

STOP LEAVING WARZONES AND MAN UP OR YOU'll NEVER GET BETTER.

As soon as one or two people leave, it screws up the general flow. I was in a game and we were loosing 2-0 in hutball. Came back to win 4-3. I've done this multiple times when people have actually TRIED.

Now tell me a game you're loosing isn't worth fighting for.

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ScipioAemilianus
02.22.2012 , 01:04 PM | #384
Quote: Originally Posted by Genocidalx View Post
Why? What's your reasoning? What do you hope to accomplish by doing this? And how is your solution going to accomplish this?

I'll accept your solution if the same penalty applies to bads getting the boot for being bad or failing to carry their weight.

You guys seem to hate leavers and wish nobody would leave. I hate many "stayers" whom I wish would leave because they drag down the entire warzone. Why do we only want to punish the side that has an argument for doing everyone a favor? Logic is really sparse around here.
a 15 min debuff is nothing. if you intentionally leave it should hurt. if its a landslide let em win n stop being farmed

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Genocidalx
02.22.2012 , 01:07 PM | #385
Quote: Originally Posted by ScipioAemilianus View Post
a 15 min debuff is nothing. if you intentionally leave it should hurt. if its a landslide let em win n stop being farmed
Thanks for not answering a single question.

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Seriasx
02.22.2012 , 01:12 PM | #386
So many people here seem to think we all have 15 hours a day to play video games, sorry but I have maybe 2-3 "sometimes 4" hours to play every couple days.

If I'm playing against a premade and were being stomped and farmed I'm leaving, you could add an hour long, 15min long, 37 min long debuff and nothing would change because I can't do nothing for 15 minutes and I will not be farmed by some no life kid I'll just log out of swtor and do something else while I forget how much time I just wasted.

Maybe once I forget the time I wasted I'll forget to pay my sub as well.

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Killomend
02.22.2012 , 01:18 PM | #387
Quote: Originally Posted by Seriasx View Post
Maybe once I forget the time I wasted I'll forget to pay my sub as well.
And maybe Ill forget the cheese to go with this whine

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richardya
02.22.2012 , 01:30 PM | #388
Quote: Originally Posted by Seriasx View Post
So many people here seem to think we all have 15 hours a day to play video games, sorry but I have maybe 2-3 "sometimes 4" hours to play every couple days.

If I'm playing against a premade and were being stomped and farmed I'm leaving,
Well, what if I only get a half hour, and I am in a losing match and I get stuck with you. Now you quit and ruin the match and give us no hope of coming back. Not all of US get your time to play.

Your reasoning is pure selfishness and only concerned with YOUR time. Try and remember there are other people in the WZ. I know it's easy to blame your teammates when you are losing but try and grow up.

You talk about your precious time as you stomp on other peoples time.

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Seriasx
02.22.2012 , 01:38 PM | #389
Quote: Originally Posted by richardya View Post
Well, what if I only get a half hour, and I am in a losing match and I get stuck with you. Now you quit and ruin the match and give us no hope of coming back. Not all of US get your time to play.

Your reasoning is pure selfishness and only concerned with YOUR time. Try and remember there are other people in the WZ. I know it's easy to blame your teammates when you are losing but try and grow up.

You talk about your precious time as stamp on other peoples time.
So the only time you join a losing match is after someone leaves? This is what you are going with?

Well good sir can you please explain how many of my games that start 5 v 8 aquire 3 more players over the duration of the mqtch? No one left, oh but I guess that guy who joined assumed that someone did.



The point is this.

The match maker doesnt work because it doesnt look at gear, premade vs. premade nor does it wait for 8 players to play against 8 players at the start of a match.

Punishing people because BW cant fix their match maker wont work. Players are leaving because the match maker doesnt work.


Also this whole leaver debuff will do nothing for the players who join WZ's just to aquire buffs or to be send back to the fleet, nor would any debuff work on the guy afking in the corner or at best it will make that afker press number lock before tabbing out.



I'm mostly annoyed that the little time BW spent on this problem is being spent to not fix anything and make things worse.

BW could have worked on their match maker to stop people from wanting to leave, but instead they are adding a debuff that will fix nothing, promote afking and the people such as myself who cannot play 12+ hours of video games a day are going to be punished for swtor having a broken match maker.


This is going to work out really well...

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Bewoulff
02.22.2012 , 07:15 PM | #390
Not sure why this is such a big discussion. Let's just create a cool down or something so people will quit less. Say a 2 hour cool down on pvp, or even 30 minutes. There have been times I joined a pvp and had to quit for some reason, usually something rl needs attending. Let me get to that, move out of the way so someone else can play and the cool down can happen while I take care of whatever it is I'm doing. The argument I hear against punishment is that they enter a civil war match with 600 - 40 points left. If that's the case, just sit around until it's finished. Not long anywho. And if you're getting routed change your strategy.

I've played a game of huttball where the other team was just on a roll. 4-0 with 3 minutes left. With how crazy huttball is, we weren't going to win. Why quit? Have some fun. I just started harassing the other team. Started attacking anyone, I didnt't care who had the ball, or where it was. Let them win but go down having fun pissing them off in other ways. Wait around and trap them in the acid pool or fire. Attack the heal when no one is paying attention. But this is why I like playing a shadow. Stealth can make a bad game seem good.