Patch 1.2 will save the pvp or not ???

Nice.. thanks!

It's funny how people are such an advocate against this game, and are so supportive of Guild Wars 2 like some petty highschool rivalry on these forums.

It's like... if you don't enjoy the game -- why even bother coming here? Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you need a subscription to post on these forums?

To be honest? It probably takes more skill then 2 of the ranged classes in this game...

1. Guild Wars 2 isn't out
2. I've played every other game that is worth playing
3. Any other questions?

On its face, I don't think 1.2 will "save" PvP in this game. It certainly will improve it though. It's still very much a work in progress. Whether that's enough for people, I don't know. Right now I'm still having fun.

PvP in this game is just missing an epic feel. The combat is very fun, but it doesn't feel meaningful to me like it has in other games. I have never been one to get satisfaction in PvP from obtaining gear or Rank, and since that is endgame PvP for the most part in SWTOR, all that is left is finding good fights. Would be really great if BW could work out a way to make our actions have a more direct impact on the world/universe we play in than assault points which can be flipped in 30 seconds.

More than anything, 1.2 needs to come off without a gamebreaking hitch. BW now has a track record of breaking things they try to fix, and I think this general ineptitude more than anything is what drove a lot of players away. It's difficult for people to muster confidence in a company that has to constantly emergency patch their gamebreaking patches. Just one 24 hour bout of incompetence was enough to pretty much shatter the Valor system. Let's hope nothing aggregious like that happens with 1.2.

Because we are astounded the game can be this bad with this much money invested?

Game performance? Horrible. Which makes "world pvp" pointless.

PvP balance? LOL. Designed by some clicking idiot fail caster who got rolled by skilled melee in WoW (they all said they played WoW and some classes are direct ripoffs like sage/sorc being a dumbed down vanilla shadow priest with autoface) and made a game custom tailored so he could be "leet".

All you need to know about this game?

The most OP class/spec had it's counter nerfed half a week into the 50 bracket and none of the complaints (voiced by bad sages/sorcerers) were moved or threads shutdown.

Hybrid spec sorc/sage which have had threads which numbered HUNDREDS of pages, complaining about them and the resolve system? Moved to the class forum or shut down...

Bias and stupidity? No thanks. Best story people, most money invested. Same fail pvp designers from other games that FAILED. These people never should have been hired in the first place.

There have been thousands of complaints about resolve/knockbacks/stuns, and they have yet to even address it. That alone shows how clueless and biased they are. Not to mention 7/8 classes in the 10-49 bracket being a sorc/sage/commando/merc...

Those "metrics" don't mean anything though I guess.

Lets hope they do something for the open pvp as well... maybe in the next patch ???

I'm really looking forward to Ranked Warzones. (Also, isn't there another warzone too?)

I don't really care about Open World PVP, but if they improved it, a lot of people would be happy, I guess..

By the time 1.2 comes people will be playing GW2 beta.

What if they completely remove open pvp (Ilum) and focus on Wz by adding some more and fixing all they can ?