This game is TWO MONTHS old.

Ya know, Ive been a part of a ton of launches and it is really eerie how we see the same exact posts in every forum. lol just an observation I felt like sharing.

I am not trying to bust anyones nards or what have you here, but that was the problem with WoW for me. The story. I personally could not get into it. I felt like every time I went to go grab a quest it was just yes take quest go get stuff turn in, get xp's and lewt, go to next guy get next quest, rinse repeat. That is what I got used to doing for a fairly long time. So to add stories late in the game that might or were captivating meant nothing as I would just have overlooked it and said "Where be my xp's and lewt?!"

At least with SWTOR I was given a story right off the bat and it set a precedent for the whole game. And the fact that some choices I made affected either my light side or dark side rating or how much my companion liked me it made them that much more fun. It also made for a lot more RP (role playing) in my opinion. Nice change to point, click, kill, xp, lewt, turn in.

I think you're over-reacting. Maybe cut down on the cookies or something..

What people are saying is that for a $300m game, with 6 years development, launched in late 2011, it is sadly lacking in even the basic features which some MMOs had years ago.


If you don't agree, and are willing to accept what you bought, then fine. Other's are not. And contrary to your opinion, their opinions are as valid as yours.

Trial and error is medieval approach, do you honestly expect cars to be done by trial and error without any sort of data analysis? or medicines? or heck, you dont even get good in sport, unless you learn from the mistakes, but you have to find out WHAT are those mistakes. You will never be a good javelin thrower, if you train with stick on your backyard...oh the irony, considering your last post

RIFT had a launch that was smoother than SWTOR without huge issues like Illum and Ability delay plus in almost the same two month time frame had double the content we have now as we wait for month three to hopefully bring something. You can be dismissive or outright ignore the facts but based on how slow Bioware is moving the only numbers you will be looking at will be the lack of subs and server mergers.

This Blotter, you should pick up by now he can see no wrong. The classic forum defender.

So basically after SWTOR features were announced, WOW implemented some of them.

Well then.

I just have to respond to your first statement. WOW has bugs and they are pressent from day one, some got fixed before the first expansion, some got fixed due to the revamp in cata. but cata introduced many new bugs that have to be fixed.

BUGS are there and they happen. no program can even stand against one user using it. let alone thousands. now one bug may crop up on one server but not another because the use of the servers are different. but they deal with one bug for ALL servers.

your reference to a car does not stand up to scrutiny. look at it this way. when AC was a luxury and new it took YEARS before it became standard, and even then car models didn't all have it right away. it was almost 5-10 years before it became a standard and still some didn't have it. and those models still sold quite well!

I can't see these whiners accepting even a wow clone from the start if it's not what is wanted by one person they will whine about if they were expecting their own personal wants to be fulfilled. even if there was a server lfg tool from day one, they'd have whined about the queues, and other things.

I agree with the OP, this game is new, it has bugs, and they WILL be worked out in time. this game gave everyone warzones from the start. no other game has done this. this game gave people attack pet/companions from the start. other games gave that to only a few classes. this game has made story lines for each class and huge amounts of voice overs, no other game has this from the start or even something as in depth as it is.

Darth Freki

ignores? I have to disagree with you on this. I've dealt with some indie MMOs that the devs ignored the community...and i mean ignore like an angry 14 years old girl ignores her drama queen friends kind of ignore. If you want to see some blatant disregard for community check out Earthrise......oh wait....it shut down.

I think i have to disagree with "revolutionized" the genre. Even when WoW came out it was still recycling mechanics from its predecessors. It has done a good job over its life of fine tuning and expanding on mechanics for its particular niche. Definitely no arguments about Blizzards ability to market the game to the mainstream audience. One thing they did do well (and maybe not always for the better [see general discussion forums]) is make the genre less "geeky" and have more mainstream appeal.

Yes, well, if a raiding game is what you are looking for then I recommend EQ.
SW:TOR most definitely is not that game. It is not designed to be that game and to be honest is unlikely to be that game any time soon.
That however does not make it a bad game, nor a flopped game. Just a different game than what you are looking for.

And for what it is worth, you have my sympathies. Heavy raiding focussed games are a dying breed. Casual, 'master it on an hour here and there', games are the new black.
The amount of players willing to invest time, effort and self discipline for raiding is diminishing rapidly. There simply are not enough players with that interest to justify investing 100+ million dollars in game development for them.

Wow your totally lying to yourself.