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Sunsoar
02.22.2012 , 12:22 PM | #101
OP

You're wrong. This game is over a year old. It's almost the exact same game from early beta as launch. (Minus UI changes and other smaller things) and it released with the same bugs found in early beta and some still exist today.

When your competition has more content /features than you and future mmos planning on having more content than you (subject to change of course) than you have failed in my eyes. Standards are different from when WoW launched. At least for me.

EAMythic failed yet again and are still failing in my eyes. Time will tell if they get their heads out of their as....erm...wallets.
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This game desperately needs some sandbox elements. Repetitive grinding is not fun.

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Telendria
02.22.2012 , 12:22 PM | #102
Quote: Originally Posted by Blotter View Post
A combat log is not some absolutely necessary hugely required omg I can't play without it featurethat every game needs. I'm getting along just fine without one. L2P?
Funny, I wrote that people WANT it, not NEED it, but I guess you need to L2Read
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"what the heck just happened and why did I just die?"

Who cares? You get to call a freekin medical driod and pop back up as if by magic and try again! And if you're wipping your raids, then yes, L2P. What, you need a combat log so you can whine about numbers or some random glitch that popped up here or there? Who cares? Super Mario Brothers didn't have combat logs (haha). You died cuz you jumped wrong and blew it and it was noticeable. Same thing here. Every single time I've blown it on a pull while solo-ing or in another situation resulting in my toon pushing up daisies, I've been able to pop back up, retry it in a different manner and go "oh, duh, forgot to use a little CC last time haha...must be getting lazy" or some such thing.

Know what happens with combat logs...almost INSTANTLY? This: a giant increase in "ZOMG NERF [INSERT CLASS]...HE BBQ'D MY FACE OFF IN TEH PVPs...LOOKIT TEH NUMBERZ!!!!!" As far as I'm concerned, that is the A#1 reason people want them, so they can start the nerfwars with "backup."

You dont get the point, do you? how can the person L2P if he doesnt know what he did wrong?

All you are saying is basically "WoW has it, so SWTOR must be different" so I guess no reason to argue anymore

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Blotter
02.22.2012 , 12:22 PM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by darkonnis View Post
I like swtor, i do, however biowares ignoring its community on such a huge scale it isn't even funny.
Given the mount of feedback from BW on the forums, Twitter, development tracker, blogs, and information they've provided about what they're working on and issues they've recognized and content they're adding, etc., AND the level of effort BW is making to encourage constructive feedback and questions, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this: it's some of the players ignoring BW that's the problem, not vice versa.
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Vincynt
02.22.2012 , 12:24 PM | #104
For a two month old game SWTOR has a lot of content. The biggest complaint I have about SWTOR's content is not the lack of it, it's the ease of it. In my opinion they should have tuned the leveling process to take an average player 3 months assuming they would skip cut scene's that were NOT their class quests. That way the "hardcore" levelers would have taken about a month not a week. And Operations should have been tuned to take what I would consider a "raiding guild" (that is a solid group of overly dedicated people that are consistent, play their classes well, and raid 5 nights out of the week) 3 or so months to complete.

Bug wise, every MMO I've ever played near launch has a bunch of these. The only thing we as players can really do is keep reporting them diligently and from that diligence have an expectation that BW will prioritize these bugs and fix them in a timely fashion. I have run across numerous bugs that have been annoying and problematic but nothing that I haven't been able to turn a blind eye to and work around. That my experience and everyone's will differ.

As far as features go IMO BW has no excuses. They had estimated the launch capacity of the game to be quite a sufficent number. I would have hoped that things like an LFG Tool, Guild Banks, and a more refined GTN. I'm torn about the GTN to be honest. On one hand I appreciate the fact that they didn't just copy and past Blizzards example. And with my other hand I'm shaking my fist at them for trying to re-invent the wheel when Blizzard (imo) got it right. What they should have done for the GTN is hire the teams that did the Auctioneer Add-On for WoW and have them design the GTN.

I've been getting super frustrated on the forums lately as I read more and more complaint threads where people argue there's no content and then list a bunch of features they want to have. I think everyone needs to take a look at the defination of the word features and the word content and make sure they have a solid grasp of what they're actually complaining about.

All of that being said I enjoy the game, and I have hopes that BW will improve it over the long term. Please BW make sure to prioritize things that will keep people in the game. Content will do you no good in the long run if it continues to be as easy as what is in the game right now. People will continue to power thru it and then find the features of your game lacking (which they honestly are).

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MGriffith
02.22.2012 , 12:24 PM | #105
Quote: Originally Posted by bhoward View Post
Id hope that no one is complaining that this game doesn't have the number of dungeons that wow and its expansions have, because that is silly to complain about. But a basic feature like a combat log; are you guys really defending it was never in at launch?
Easily.
I don't care about combat logs, so I sure don't care if it is in the game or not.

See how this works?

Your 'must have' items differ from mine and both of our lists differ from everybody else's.
Unless you want to wait for forever the developers have to pick and choose which to include at launch and which will have to wait.
But don't make the mistake thinking that your personal 'must have' list is the ultimate milestone for multiplayer games, and even less so for this particular game. And no, I am not going to argue that my list is better or contains more crucial items than yours.

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Setanian
02.22.2012 , 12:24 PM | #106
Quote: Originally Posted by Dillingor View Post
Going to leave this here.
Why? it's total rubbish.
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Blotter
02.22.2012 , 12:25 PM | #107
Quote: Originally Posted by Telendria View Post
You dont get the point, do you? how can the person L2P if he doesnt know what he did wrong?

All you are saying is basically "WoW has it, so SWTOR must be different" so I guess no reason to argue anymore
1. Trial and error. I.E., the way you learn everything in life.

2. I never said that and that's not my point. My point is that the absolutely inconsolable rage from you people constantly complaining that this or that crutch isn't in the game, this or that bell or whistle hasn't been added yet or whatever the complaint meme du jour is....you're so overboard and hyperbolic you completely and utterly miss the forest for the trees.
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Setanian
02.22.2012 , 12:27 PM | #108
Quote: Originally Posted by Citywok View Post
You will see. 1.7 out of 2.0 million is an absolutely amazing retention rate. I read somewhere that the subs got about 2 million for the first time recently, though I forget where. This game isn't going anywhere for a Loooooooooooooooong time. The subs will increase.
O'Really.. You forgot.. How convenient.
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Paganini
02.22.2012 , 12:27 PM | #109
When are these threads going to end?

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ShadowOfVey
02.22.2012 , 12:28 PM | #110
I know it's not the end all be all for games, but it's going to be hard to play quest driven MMOs in the future that don't have voiceovers.
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