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Citywok

02.22.2012 , 12:04 PM \| #81	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian The argument is; for a $300m game, one would expect it to have the basic features like guild banks, proper lfg tools, moldable UI.. need i go on? I don't know of any game that had guild banks, LFG tools, and modable UI at launch. Guess what features like these get added in when theres a need for them. The SWTOR development team couldn't stop what they were doing every time a new feature came out in another game.

Blotter

02.22.2012 , 12:05 PM \| #82	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Merlinr Here is what a new game's patch schedule should look like from a top notch development team. http://forums.riftgame.com/official-...es/index3.html Did you miss the QQ posts about SWTOR having multiple downtimes for patches and hotfixes each week? PAY ATTENTION! Get your QQ right, man. Geez...next thing you know, you'll be QQing about multiple downtimes per week in a thread about there not being enough patching and hotfixing.
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Aedales

02.22.2012 , 12:05 PM \| #83	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian I'm sorry... In your pro-gamer opinion, Sw:ToR is 'real' gaming? Can I have some of whatever you're smoking? Actually it is... It is not a cookie cutter wow clone like most MMOs that launch. Swtor has added some very unique stuff to their game mechanics. They are continuing to add content, and their player base is growing. You asked for stats, I provided stats.. then you just jumble on about how you do not think the playerbase will hold. Wow was just re-hashed content that dragged on soo bad it was hard to log in because it was the same crap on every toon. Now, did wow come out with some improvements.. yes they did. I liked the area phasing when you quested, that was interesting. Swtor however has done something for me personally that no other game ever has (That includes swg, wow, eve, rom, coh / cov, dc universe, vanguard, and the list goes on), they actually make you part of the game instead of just playing the game. The cinematics add flavor and the content has been great. So in thinking out of the box, swtor takes the others out hands down. Again, as I stated, if you don't like it... go away.
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JHoltJHolt

02.22.2012 , 12:06 PM \| #84	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz No, but they should be less buggy than this game is. And many of them are. Right now, my expectation is that it will be basically the same, they'll have fixed some of the bugs hopefully. If I buy a new car, I expect it to come with air conditioning. If your excuse is that it's a new model this year and has only existed for 2 months... that's not going to fly. Do What? Should this person even be talking? I don't see how his "facts" are working out. I thought I was buying a computer game, not a car.... or did I miss something? Please, someone help explain this to me, I'm so confused right now, I may need to go lay down.
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Blotter

02.22.2012 , 12:07 PM \| #85	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Citywok I don't know of any game that had guild banks, LFG tools, and modable UI at launch. Guess what features like these get added in when theres a need for them. The SWTOR development team couldn't stop what they were doing every time a new feature came out in another game. Yes, but supposedlky, they were supposed to wait to release this for another 3 years so that they could eventually (magically) catch up and release a game that had everythign that all the other games kept adding during the SWTOR development years AND have all the extra stuff like VO and and 8 stories etc. that SWTOR has that one of the others have. Magic game development pixie dust is so underrated.
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Merlinr

02.22.2012 , 12:07 PM \| #86	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Blotter Did you miss the QQ posts about SWTOR having multiple downtimes for patches and hotfixes each week? PAY ATTENTION! Get your QQ right, man. Geez...next thing you know, you'll be QQing about multiple downtimes per week in a thread about there not being enough patching and hotfixing. Pay attention to the dates. They were not weekly, they were daily and sometimes twice in one day. That's how important it is to squash bugs in a new game. I'm not a tor hater and hope it does well, but at the pace it's going right now it will never have a good reputation.

Setanian

02.22.2012 , 12:07 PM \| #87	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Citywok MMOs, well basically any business venture, are not going to be profitable after TWO MONTHS. That's unrealistic. The subscriber base isn't going to stay stagnant at 1.5 mil (even though its closer to 2.0), watch it's going to go up the farther this game goes along. GW2 is not going to put a huge dent in the SWTOR subscriber base because it caters to a different audience. GW1 was not wildly successful and didn't kill WOW. Do you know how many times I've seen people say "Well when XXX game comes out, YYY is done!"? Age of Conan was supposed to be a killer. Tabula Rasa was supposed to be amazing. Dungeons and Dragons was supposed to attract everyone. Vanguard was supposed to revolutionize MMOs. Guess what? Most of them failed, and the ones that didn't have a fairly small subscriber base. SWTOR is not in danger from these games coming out. If a huge ip like Harry Potter came out with an MMO you might have a point. You may be correct... Vanguard did revolutionize MMOs, but was led by a very bad PM which threw the whole thing into Chaos. SWToR is always in danger. The day you believe different is the day you fail. Sorry, in business that's the way it is. Just imagine the numbers if half the sub-base leave to what-ever game.. I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm saying you're wearing rose-tinted glasses.
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Telendria

02.22.2012 , 12:07 PM \| #88	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Blotter They already promised one. Patience or tantrum: choose. They promised alot of things. The problem is, combatlog isnt some new, cool feature some MMO invented half a year ago, one would expect a basic, decade old feature to actually BE in the game on launch. Yes you might defend it that you dont need or want it, but alot of people want it, even if for the simple reason of "what the heck just happened and why did I just die?" And that is not the only thing. Only a handful of graphic options, chat bubbles etc. They are on the right track with sort of customizable UI, but that sort of thing should have been on launch, especially when beta players asked for things like that half a year before launch.

FenraelWolfmien

02.22.2012 , 12:09 PM \| #89	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Telendria I'm not saying WoW had more features than SWTOR, because it didn't, and yes, it was quite boring game at the time, I played it and only reason I stayed with it at the time was amazing guild and fun we had together. That doesn't change the fact, that SWTOR is missing some features even old game like WoW had it in its infancy - combatlog, chat bubbles, other stuff, you know, that sort of thing. You know, I'll take the features SWTOR introduced over the features WOW gives. Especially the feeling that I'm actually playing a game up to cap, rather than sitting in a chat room occasionally hitting a button to kill a mob while I grind to cap so I can sit in a chat room to occasionally hit a button to kill a mob for +morestats. I'm sure it's not so different at cap, but I'm also sure that at some point they'll take some time away from other things to put in floating chat bubbles and combat logs. As for the folks griping about content.. AYFKM? One class mission storyline complete with bugs and arguments about how it sucks has more content involved than the entire run of WOW's development. Here, I will sum up 7 years of World of Warcraft: Pre BC, Part 1: Black Rock Spire and Tarren Mill vs. Southshore. Pre BC, Part 2: Molten Core and Capture the Flag. Pre BC, Part 3: Alterac Valley and Cross Server BG's. Some 20 man raid instance with trolls. BC Part 1: MEDIVH BC Part 2: BAD ELF BC Part 3: DEMON BC Part 4: BAD ELF AGAIN and Isle of QQ Wrath of the Lich King Part 1: DEATH KNIGHTS Wrath of the Lich King Part 2: DEATH KNIGHTS Wrath of the Lich King Part 3: SNOW AND DEATH KNIGHTS Wrath of the Lich King Part 4: SNOW AND DEATH KNIGHTS AND KISSING FROGS Cataclysm: I gave up again by this point so no clue other than a dragon that's on fire that's more powerful than other dragons that breathe fire because he was punished by being set on fire or something. Yeah I'll take Mako telling me she's not just a pretty sidekick over that nonsense again.

Aedales

02.22.2012 , 12:13 PM \| #90	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by FenraelWolfmien You know, I'll take the features SWTOR introduced over the features WOW gives. Especially the feeling that I'm actually playing a game up to cap, rather than sitting in a chat room occasionally hitting a button to kill a mob while I grind to cap so I can sit in a chat room to occasionally hit a button to kill a mob for +morestats. I'm sure it's not so different at cap, but I'm also sure that at some point they'll take some time away from other things to put in floating chat bubbles and combat logs. As for the folks griping about content.. AYFKM? One class mission storyline complete with bugs and arguments about how it sucks has more content involved than the entire run of WOW's development. Here, I will sum up 7 years of World of Warcraft: Pre BC, Part 1: Black Rock Spire and Tarren Mill vs. Southshore. Pre BC, Part 2: Molten Core and Capture the Flag. Pre BC, Part 3: Alterac Valley and Cross Server BG's. Some 20 man raid instance with trolls. BC Part 1: MEDIVH BC Part 2: BAD ELF BC Part 3: DEMON BC Part 4: BAD ELF AGAIN and Isle of QQ Wrath of the Lich King Part 1: DEATH KNIGHTS Wrath of the Lich King Part 2: DEATH KNIGHTS Wrath of the Lich King Part 3: SNOW AND DEATH KNIGHTS Wrath of the Lich King Part 4: SNOW AND DEATH KNIGHTS AND KISSING FROGS Cataclysm: I gave up again by this point so no clue other than a dragon that's on fire that's more powerful than other dragons that breathe fire because he was punished by being set on fire or something. Yeah I'll take Mako telling me she's not just a pretty sidekick over that nonsense again. I really lol'd at this. Good post! But you forgot to add that with every single major content added to wow, they re-did talents and you had to re-learn your toon all over again
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