This game is TWO MONTHS old.

Ok, I'll add my 2 cents here. First of all, I really agree with the OP about the game. I personally played 3 months of Beta (Not just a weekend tester), got my 2 weeks of early access, and now going on month 2. I have seen a TON of changes to swtor. I also have beta tested and played many other mmos from launch. Let me point a couple of these out here:

As the OP said, WoW or any other game has had a long time to get content provided for their subscribers. The "Is a new game" argument is a very valid one.. and really does show that you never experienced any of the mmos when they launched and the bs they went through.

As far as why you should "spend your money here and not on any other game", you shouldn't. Honestly, if you don't like the game.. go somewhere else. No one is forcing you to stay. Those of us who are staying are doing so to experience ALL the changes to the game and can claim longevity later on, while you will be one of many crawling back later when more content has been added. So if you wanna go, then go. But leave here with this one last question: Can I haz your stuff? ok bai!

I can not begin to express how much crap the above statements here are. "failed to live up to the hype in the eyes of a huge portion of their player base"... ummm what? Let me explain to you that you and 3 of your friends are not a huge portion of the player base. SWToR is actually the fastest growing MMO in history so far, oh ya that includes its competition! Other MMOs have a larger playerbase, but they took years to build. This game came out strong with a large population, and its continuing to grow. As for the rest of your comments, you are just spouting junk for the sake of doing so. If you honestly don't wanna play, go away! No one forces you to be here!

You have to be trolling.


So here is my final cut scene for all of you crying people out there: If you wanna go, please leave. I have a goal to get the real gamers to stay and to get you crying 12 year olds back to any other game you want. See you later! You really will not be missed!

EDIT: For the record, there are aspects of this game that do need worked on, I agree with that part. But if anyone wants a true reason to stay with this game it is this: Unlike other games, the developers here actually listen to the playerbase and are working on suggestions and bug fixes to that end. Am I a "Fanboi"? They are making me one for sure. Does that mean that this game is perfect? Nope, but it is unique and it has more potential then any other game on the market today.

THANK YOU! I was trying to say something like that but my english is too bad. you took the words of my mouth. 100% agree with you.

WoW fanboys move over there ------> Exit

Why do you insist on comparing a game released in late 2011 to something in 2004? It's like saying well the Ford-T model only had so many features when it came out so why should someone complain about the new 2012 Toyota Corolla?

The forums need to pander to my facebook tendencies and add like buttons on posts. Thanks OP for a great post and making a good point. Much appreciated.

I'm comparing MMO launches. You guys really don't get how an MMO launch works, SWTOR is not going to have three expansions worth of content at launch, go play another game please.

Enough with the car comparisons. This is not a car, this is a game, the programming of which is complex and convoluted. I would challenge all these people that say they could have done better with this to go make an mmo that is better than this one. Making a game run is hard by itself, add in connecting to another computer and playing with that person brings a world of problems. Add in yet hundreds and thousands of people and you get even more issues.

I don't know how many times one has to reiterate the same thing.

The argument about SWTOR coming out in 2011 and WoW coming out in 2004 so SWTOR should have all those features blah blah blah is garbage. Completely garbage.

You need to actually stop and think about development for a minute.


When they were planning out SWTOR, I'd say it was either during Vanilla WoW, or Burning Crusade at the latest.

They had a bucket list of things to implement, and began work on it.

Development for this time of game takes YEARS TO DO.

So yes, while they were developing this game WoW was coming out with new and interesting features, as were other MMOS. That's great, but if they stopped and kept adding every new thing in to this game during that time, it would never come out. It would constantly add development time, and the game would end up like duke nukem forever.


Instead, they did what they set out to do with intentions of adding features post launch. THIS IS HOW MMOS WORK.


Yes, WoW came out in 2004, and SWTOR did learn a lot from that believe it or not, but you CAN'T realistically add in every feature WoW has added WHILE YOUR GAME IS IN DEVELOPMENT and expect it to fit budget or come out on time.

Anyone who uses that dull lifeless argument that oh well WoW came out in 2004 so SWTOR SHOULD HAVE ALL THOSE FEATURES BECAUSE ITS 2012!!! obviously doesn't have any idea of how the real world works, nor have they ever held a job that actually does anything of use, besides feeding fat people, or washing their cars or whatever.


Seriously, drop that argument, it only makes you look ignorant and stupid.

This is on the money.

No problem, I just want people to understand that this game is going to be MUCH better. Thats how all MMOs are, more content is added after launch fixes are made. I'm going to laugh when they come back in a few months and love this game. Honestly I think a lot of these people are just bored with MMOs in general and expected this to be a drastically different game changer at launch. It's already top 3 in subscribers and there's only more good stuff to come.

THANK YOU. I seriously love you for this post. People just don't understand how these things work or care to understand. They're all me me me satisfy me now type of people. Patience is a virtue believe it or not.