This game is TWO MONTHS old.

I think most of these people haven't played an MMO at launch before. They expect SWTOR to be as polished and have as much content as a game with three expansions and seven years in development. Watch them all come crawling back a couple patches from now.

Hey yeah, I just realised we're into the second paid month.

Lemme go check something...



... Hey guys, the game is still running and hasn't even gone F2P! That's another doomsayer milestone crushed. Shocking, I know.

Ignorance is bliss i guess..A car is not the same as a programed MMO.The Comparison you gave is totally out of place and wrong.

I hate that game. Good try though; it's cute that you think I care what you think of me.

Sure, we can play our sad violins for the developers because launching an MMO is so difficult and they deserve the benefit of the doubt. We should throw our money at them because they deserve it. We owe it to them for having put themselves out there to bring us this slice of heaven called TOR.

The reality is that I--and I assume many others--only have the time and money to invest in one MMO at a time. So we have to pick and choose which is most appealing...

Put TOR up against any current subscription-based MMO and its foundation begins to falter. I'm not at all claiming that TOR is a bad game, but I am suggesting that other games are a better value you for your money on the basis that they provide more... stuff to do.

Is it not a fact that there are other MMOs that are more polished and provide more content than TOR? Rhetorical question. Your insistence on using the "it's a new game" argument proves to me that you realize other games are more polished and offer more content.

So since you're arguing in defense of the developers and the game, give me some reasons why I should spend my money here and not on any other game?

EDIT - I love that when anyone brings up TOR's competition, but does not name names, the defense squad always brings up WoW. Yet in the same breath, they're the first to shout at you if you do compare the two...

No one is ignoring anything. The premise of your post is to make an excuse for why TOR doesn't compete well with it's competition and has failed to live up to the hype in the eyes of a huge portion of their player base.

No one cares that the game is "only 2 months old." The entire premise of releasing broken, buggy, or incomplete software to a retail market has been a patronizing load of garbage for the entirety of the 12+ years that MMO developers have been doing it. Today, FINALLY it has grown unacceptable to do so because as gamers we now have choice provided by a variety of games and competition in the genre. Today we no longer have to put up with it when companies try to sell us something that is fundamentally broken or doesn't deliver on all of it's selling points because we have the opportunity to simply pick up a product that does. THAT is capitalism at it's finest and that is why games today cannot afford to release early anymore. This isn't 2003 anymore dude, an MMO launch today needs to be competitive with the games that are already out on the market. That's just a fact of the culture change that has occurred over the last 10 years. Believe it or not that's infact a good thing as it raises the bar in terms of quality that we see produced. Stop fighting that progress by making excuses for companies who under deliver.

As I've said earlier; A truly good game contains features that the players didn't know they wanted. SWTOR didn't even have the basic features that the players are accustomed to in already existing games.

You're comparison doesn't really work, because a car is far less complicated than a video game. Their are SO many issues that can happen with a program that just can't be found or planned for. A program is an abstract thing that a lot of times will have a mind of its own. With a car, you have an issue with a tire, you check that tire. With a game if you have an issue with the loading of a lvl, or the graphics, or the player animations, you then have to go and sift through thousands of lines of code to attempt to find the issue. And when you find the issue and "fix" it a new issue can pop up from what you changed. Programs are fickle sons of guns that can be very temperamental.

I agree with you completely OP.

However this game is not Wow and expecting it to have the same features and play like Wow is NOT realistic. there is not one game on the market that has the amount of endgame content or features that Wow has.

Nobody wants a Wow clone but boy o boy do people complain when it doesnt have what Wow has right off the block crap is going to fly.

Anyone that tries to say relax give it a little time are labeled Fanbois or biodrones.
Impatient and entitled gamers are what will kill this game, not bioware or anyone else.

That "other game" is about to get Panda's next with the next expansion... Me so jealous!

Idk, it's tough going from WoW burning crusade. Where i never seen a bug before. Then going to Aion, again never seeing a bug before. Then going to Rift. again never seeing a bug before. Then going to Swtor and the whole game is a giant bug.