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People leaving wz is now out of control.

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People leaving wz is now out of control.

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Mumnoch
02.21.2012 , 11:11 PM | #361
Quote: Originally Posted by Thexremstar View Post
Yeh I agree a Debuff or some punishment for abandoning should be implenemted asap!
Call me a elitest or whatever but the truth of the matter is that now that I've got all my BM gear I play WZ's for the fun of it. So if I see that I'm going against 2 premades and I have a bunch of ******* on my team who are clueless about how to play their class or work as a group...I'm leaving that WZ and queing up for another one.

Bottom line is I did my time of playing with scrubs to earn my daily boxes and now that I'm geared out I'm not going to stick around crappy games when I can leave and re-que. There's several people who think just like me too.

The big question here is "Why should I be punished for leaving a match when I'm playing with people who are clueless about their class or how to PVP?".

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Seurot
02.21.2012 , 11:14 PM | #362
Quote: Originally Posted by Mumnoch View Post
Call me a elitest or whatever but the truth of the matter is that now that I've got all my BM gear I play WZ's for the fun of it. So if I see that I'm going against 2 premades and I have a bunch of ******* on my team who are clueless about how to play their class or work as a group...I'm leaving that WZ and queing up for another one.

Bottom line is I did my time of playing with scrubs to earn my daily boxes and now that I'm geared out I'm not going to stick around crappy games when I can leave and re-que. There's several people who think just like me too.

The big question here is "Why should I be punished for leaving a match when I'm playing with people who are clueless about their class or how to PVP?".
^^ Exactly. I'm not wasting my time when idiots arent' playing to win, or its going to be 15min of frustration. Its a game and I'm going to do whatever is more fun.

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zanthal
02.22.2012 , 07:31 AM | #363
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The big question here is "Why should I be punished for leaving a match when I'm playing with people who are clueless about their class or how to PVP?".

I can't really argue with that. But those clueless ones and the lousy play they exhibit, will always exist. It's a given, so you're still talking about the problem, and not the solution.


the only real solution I can think of, is rated PVP.


We should have rated WZs, and non-rated WZs, with significantly better rewards for the rated ones.


Even though I'm sure it's been discussed and maybe even hinted toward or promised in future updates, I'm not holding my breath.


In the mean time, I'm still pretty sick of what's going on lately, which is as soon as one team starts to not totally dominate a WZ right out of the gate, half the team quits.


I'd rather be "punished" by having to put up with egotistical perfect PVPers and keyboard smashing morons, and 90% of the time, finish the warzone with those that started it. The clueless would probably learn something and be less annoying the next time around, and , the super elite might learn a little humility.


and I am not pointing any fingers at anyone in this thread, btw
"You do not desire my brownie. Or my lunch money."

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Vlacke
02.22.2012 , 07:53 AM | #364
I never quit a warzone match, you win some, you loose some.
Those who do so on a regular basis as soon as things are starting to look bad for their team should be penalized.

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Bovinity
02.22.2012 , 08:23 AM | #365
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1 decent player with 7 bad teammates against 8 coordinated players ends the same way as 7 bad players vs 8 coordinated players.
This is the logic I love the most. Everyone sees themself as the "one decent player" among 7 other idiots.

But when you queue up and start losing a game, and 6+ people quit the WZ instantly...if you were all the "decent player among scrubs" that each of you thinks you are - thus giving you the sense of entitlement that makes you think you deserve a win - why were you losing to begin with? =D

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Jaidan
02.22.2012 , 08:40 AM | #366
Quote: Originally Posted by Bovinity View Post
This is the logic I love the most. Everyone sees themself as the "one decent player" among 7 other idiots.

But when you queue up and start losing a game, and 6+ people quit the WZ instantly...if you were all the "decent player among scrubs" that each of you thinks you are - thus giving you the sense of entitlement that makes you think you deserve a win - why were you losing to begin with? =D
that's actually a fair point.

all i can say is that its a team effort. sometimes you can have a team full of mvps who just don't work well together.

like i said somewhere else, i could care less what my individual score is if we lose. by extension, if we got a team full of elites who just don't work well together, and the result is a loss, well, then it might as well be a team full of noobs.

my gripe isn't with the bad players, its with teams that display a complete lack of coordination. just so happens that most times the losses are a result of bad players, because most good players innately know how to work with other like minded players.

bottom line ill take a lvl 10 who knows what he's doing over a lvl 50 in full bm gear that runs the ball into his own team's goal, if it means we'll win.

edit: and yes, i know the answer to that is to premade. trust me, im still looking for a group of people who i can work well with... people who don't just accept losing as something that is unavoidable sometimes (attitudes like that are the difference between being the best and being number 2).

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Alphashado
02.22.2012 , 08:40 AM | #367
Odd that it doesn't seem to occur to anyone that much of this would change when we can CHOOSE which WZ we play. I have never once left a Voidstar or Alderaan match. Huttball on the other hand... I leave all the time. Most of the time as soon as I can. I will stick around if it is a good team and I think we stand a fair chance at winning. But if it is a horribad team getting pwned, then forget it I am out.

I cannot stand Huttball. That is a personal preference, and will not change. And as long as I am FORCED to play it.. I will continue to leave at my descretion.

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Jaidan
02.22.2012 , 08:46 AM | #368
Quote: Originally Posted by Alphashado View Post
Odd that it doesn't seem to occur to anyone that much of this would change when we can CHOOSE which WZ we play. I have never once left a Voidstar or Alderaan match. Huttball on the other hand... I leave all the time. Most of the time as soon as I can. I will stick around if it is a good team and I think we stand a fair chance at winning. But if it is a horribad team getting pwned, then forget it I am out.

I cannot stand Huttball. That is a personal preference, and will not change. And as long as I am FORCED to play it.. I will continue to leave at my descretion.
i actually find myself leaving more alds and voidstars than huttballs.

maybe its because i grew up playing sports and understand the concept of passing the ball... or that killing and dying matters far less in a well played huttball match than in any other warzone. personal opinion here... but death match is the least skill and strategy involved activity in any game ever made anywhere.

maybe its the fact that if you perform terribly in the first round of void you already know that the 2nd round will be a waste of time.

maybe its because ald reminds me too much of AB from WoW.

i dunno... but i prefer huttball over all the other warzones and id bet i have a higher win rate in that warzone than any other.

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Scotland
02.22.2012 , 08:48 AM | #369
Quote: Originally Posted by Jaidan View Post
i actually find myself leaving more alds and voidstars than huttballs.

maybe its because i grew up playing sports and understand the concept of passing the ball...

maybe its the fact that if you perform terribly in the first round of void you already know that the 2nd round will be a waste of time.

maybe its because ald reminds me too much of AB from WoW.

i dunno... but i prefer huttball over all the other warzones and id bet i have a higher win rate in that warzone than any other.
jedi spec'd?

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Jaidan
02.22.2012 , 08:50 AM | #370
Quote: Originally Posted by Scotland View Post
jedi spec'd?
heh, juggernaut spec'd actually. which means i get huttball far more than anything else... gogo population imbalance.