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Playing a sorc, hoping for a sorc nerf

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Playing a sorc, hoping for a sorc nerf

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syntxerr
02.21.2012 , 07:10 PM | #151
Why are people complaining about the bubble now. Leave it be for christs sake, the class needs it for both, PVE and PVP. Badly.

A Sorc drops like a fly once it's off and against any serious DPSer it won't survive longer than 1 or 2 GCDs anyway.

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Valfodr
02.21.2012 , 07:20 PM | #152
I love how people saying 1m damage spread across 8 people is negligible. That's 1m damage that's AoE, yes, but FFS we aren't talking 1v1 in WZs.

Why do Sorcs have such an issue realizing 1m damage is 500k damage that had to be healed that wouldn't otherwise. The resources to heal that could have be converted into damage or buffs. Those close deaths where you needed .3s to get that heal off wouldn't have happened.

Are people really thinking being 2-3x as potent as any class because it's AoE? Really? lol

Screw it BW, give us sorcs 1m in single target DPS also. It's not broken because it's not 1m HPS also.

PS: Give us 1m healing too, it's not mitigation, it could be DPSed down if it's AoE.


Common sense guys, for real.

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TetraCleric
02.21.2012 , 07:26 PM | #153
Quote: Originally Posted by Valfodr View Post
I love how people saying 1m damage spread across 8 people is negligible. That's 1m damage that's AoE, yes, but FFS we aren't talking 1v1 in WZs.

Why do Sorcs have such an issue realizing 1m damage is 500k damage that had to be healed that wouldn't otherwise. The resources to heal that could have be converted into damage or buffs. Those close deaths where you needed .3s to get that heal off wouldn't have happened.

Are people really thinking being 2-3x as potent as any class because it's AoE? Really? lol

Screw it BW, give us sorcs 1m in single target DPS also. It's not broken because it's not 1m HPS also.

PS: Give us 1m healing too, it's not mitigation, it could be DPSed down if it's AoE.


Common sense guys, for real.

You don't understand how artificial inflation through AoE works.

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GrandMike
02.21.2012 , 07:32 PM | #154
Quote: Originally Posted by Valfodr View Post
I love how people saying 1m damage spread across 8 people is negligible. That's 1m damage that's AoE, yes, but FFS we aren't talking 1v1 in WZs.

Why do Sorcs have such an issue realizing 1m damage is 500k damage that had to be healed that wouldn't otherwise. The resources to heal that could have be converted into damage or buffs. Those close deaths where you needed .3s to get that heal off wouldn't have happened.

Are people really thinking being 2-3x as potent as any class because it's AoE? Really? lol

Screw it BW, give us sorcs 1m in single target DPS also. It's not broken because it's not 1m HPS also.

PS: Give us 1m healing too, it's not mitigation, it could be DPSed down if it's AoE.


Common sense guys, for real.
Eh? AOE damage/heal fests mean nothing. I can spam my AOE whole day and kill nothing if any healer uses AOE heal.

I would gladly trade that AOE tickle for a nice juicy single target burst like other classes have.

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Aidank
02.21.2012 , 07:32 PM | #155
Why do people act like if damage is AoE it suddenly stops mattering?
Quote: Originally Posted by HileyQuiggley View Post
Nerf Grav Round are you serious? What else could we possibly do after that?

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GrandMike
02.21.2012 , 07:34 PM | #156
Quote: Originally Posted by Aidank View Post
Why do people act like if damage is AoE it suddenly stops mattering?
Because shutting down sorc/sage is easiest job in PvP. L2P.

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Valfodr
02.21.2012 , 07:34 PM | #157
Quote: Originally Posted by TetraCleric View Post
You don't understand how artificial inflation through AoE works.
I don't think you realize 1m damage is 1m damage, and there's no natural health regen in combat.

It's going to be healed, and the resources could have been used to damage someone or something else.

For real dude, 1m damage is still going to be 125,000 damage amongst 8 people. No other class also has an AoE that can heal 8 people, and I'm unsure about Smuggler/IA, but Kolto Missile is a 3 target non smart heal, meaning you're not only going to have to use more resources when fighting sorcs than other classes but you have an option of overhealing when inevitably someone moves during your kolto missile or spamming ST heals which because you're having to hit 8 people and a focused DPS can hit 15k to dead fairly quickly you don't want to let them lower themselves by 5k just so you don't waste any resources on overheal.

Oh, and the fact again that's *********** resources you could use for ANYTHING else if the class was not a Sorc. Any other class.

Hell, let's not even go into the fact AoE is more useful for **** blocking objectives anyway.

If you don't get the fact that even if it's easy to heal off it's still resources being drained no other class can match well, whatever. You wouldn't be the first thinking their the only guy smart enough to realize somehow something that's supposed to be balanced but having 3x the potential of everything else might be screwy.

tl;dr: Again, really? Common sense.

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GrandMike
02.21.2012 , 07:36 PM | #158
Quote: Originally Posted by Valfodr View Post
I don't think you realize 1m damage is 1m damage, and there's no natural health regen in combat.

It's going to be healed, and the resources could have been used to damage someone or something else.

For real dude, 1m damage is still going to be 125,000 damage amongst 8 people. No other class also has an AoE that can heal 8 people, and I'm unsure about Smuggler/IA, but Kolto Missile is a 3 target non smart heal, meaning you're not only going to have to use more resources when fighting sorcs than other classes but you have an option of overhealing when inevitably someone moves during your kolto missile or spamming ST heals which because you're having to hit 8 people and a focused DPS can hit 15k to dead fairly quickly you don't want to let them lower themselves by 5k just so you don't waste any resources on overheal.

Oh, and the fact again that's *********** resources you could use for ANYTHING else if the class was not a Sorc. Any other class.

Hell, let's not even go into the fact AoE is more useful for **** blocking objectives anyway.

If you don't get the fact that even if it's easy to heal off it's still resources being drained no other class can match well, whatever. You wouldn't be the first thinking their the only guy smart enough to realize somehow something that's supposed to be balanced but having 3x the potential of everything else might be screwy.

tl;dr: Again, really? Common sense.
AOE hits 5 targets max. Whats your point? Or are you speaking of channeled AOE that does 2,5k damage over 6s and has no cap? GL spamming that.

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Aidank
02.21.2012 , 07:37 PM | #159
Quote: Originally Posted by GrandMike View Post
Because shutting down sorc/sage is easiest job in PvP. L2P.
You're joking right?


As you know already, my most played char is a sorcerer, if you're being shut down then you're in no position to be telling people to l2p.
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Nerf Grav Round are you serious? What else could we possibly do after that?

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Valfodr
02.21.2012 , 07:37 PM | #160
Quote: Originally Posted by GrandMike View Post
Eh? AOE damage/heal fests mean nothing. I can spam my AOE whole day and kill nothing if any healer uses AOE heal.

I would gladly trade that AOE tickle for a nice juicy single target burst like other classes have.
Hey dude. Spoilers: No one but Sorc/Sages have that real AoE heal. There's a 4 target HoT for IA/Smugglers and a 3 target heal for BHs/Troopers.

And dude, have you NEVER played Voidstar or Civil War? You really think AoE damage doesn't matter?

You heard it here first, AoEs are not important in 2/3 of the WZs. Let all those AoE spammers blocking the entire team from bomb-planting know that's not a good tactic.