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xhaiquan
01.13.2012 , 03:20 PM | #1
On Tarris group of 16 level 32-37 take down ancient one world boss.

3 agents in group. A nice purple protype drops clearly meant for agents. All roll need.

A sith assasin also rolls need and wins, saying he needed it for his companion.


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Sireene
02.21.2012 , 05:35 PM | #2
Hey there!

Since the previous thread reached over 1,000 posts we've gone ahead and restarted the discussion in this new thread.

Damion Schubert posted this response in the thread Do not roll "Need" for companion gear. on 02-13-2012.

Quote: Originally Posted by DamionSchubert View Post
Need vs. greed isn't as simple in our game because of companions, as well as Orange Gear and mod extraction.

We will probably limit the 'need' button to only people who match the primary class the gear is meant for, and add a new button in between need and greed for players to choose if they intend the gear for these purposes - this will allow CC users to roll against each other without competing with the guy who wants to sell the gear for credits.

I don't have a timeline on this for you guys right now, though - certainly not in the next major patch. In the meantime, I strongly recommend that players who care clearly decide the expected need/greed role behaviors ('no companion need rolling or you're out!') when a group is initially formed. In the meantime, I'll work on getting this feature in the works.
To catch up on everything that has been discussed so far, please feel free to check out the previous thread here:

People who ninja for their companions

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Magnijung
02.21.2012 , 06:38 PM | #3
The main question...

1) Is companion part of you?

2) Even if your companion is part of you but did not contribute to the group, should companions have same priority is the the main avatars?

3) If companions have same priority as players, in theory everyone should roll need on everything? Thus what is the point of greed button?

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cipher_nemo
02.21.2012 , 07:21 PM | #4
Putting this request back into the thread since we went over 1,000 posts last thread...

I'd love to see the day when we get drops in end-game group content where it's something like "Requires Mako". Then every Bounty Hunter rolls need on it. "Requires Lt. Iresso", then every Consular rolls need on it.

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Qoaa
02.21.2012 , 07:31 PM | #5
that is why i dont discuss anytime loot drops i click need if i want it and that's that, we dont have time in a flashpoint or operation to discuss each and every loot drop


and people that think companions arent great solo, mine is geared out in rakata, columi and a tionese piece and he's even a healer and soloed 2 strongs without losing health was insane.

some of the top geared companion vids on youtube are crazy sick what you can gear your companions up to do. companions get seriously insane in top gear.

there's no way in heck im gonna listen to some holier than thou 'political correct' wannabe shout morals and ethics at me, it's my popup and it dont come with a EULA or TOS, so I roll need for me and companions.

course my guild all do the same, but we've kicked idiots from pickup groups out of the group when they start trying to preach about loot rules. Id much rather hope for good random's than listen to some autistic rant about loot rules that do not exist except in his own head.

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02.21.2012 , 07:32 PM | #6
If I'm in a run (be if a FP/Op/or WB), and someone needs something I know they can't use, and doesn't admit that it was an accident, I will kick them. I will then proceed to tell everyone I can about this person, and what they did.

Now, if they ask, and no one minds, whatever. They can have it. When I'm doing these group activities, I'm there to gear players, not pets. Your companion wasn't there, they did not participate, they did not help. Whether your Lt. Pierce is still in level ~30 gear or not, is not mine, nor is it my groups, concern. They're there for solo, and 2/3 man stuff. Gear them out on your own time, with your own resources.
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Darkulous
02.21.2012 , 07:48 PM | #7
Do you play with your companion 100% of the time like your main character? NO.

So nobody should roll need for a character that isn't out 100% of the time against a character that is. It's that simple.
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Kucerakov
02.21.2012 , 08:09 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Qoaa View Post
that is why i dont discuss anytime loot drops i click need if i want it and that's that, we dont have time in a flashpoint or operation to discuss each and every loot drop


and people that think companions arent great solo, mine is geared out in rakata, columi and a tionese piece and he's even a healer and soloed 2 strongs without losing health was insane.

some of the top geared companion vids on youtube are crazy sick what you can gear your companions up to do. companions get seriously insane in top gear.

there's no way in heck im gonna listen to some holier than thou 'political correct' wannabe shout morals and ethics at me, it's my popup and it dont come with a EULA or TOS, so I roll need for me and companions.

course my guild all do the same, but we've kicked idiots from pickup groups out of the group when they start trying to preach about loot rules. Id much rather hope for good random's than listen to some autistic rant about loot rules that do not exist except in his own head.
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Kourage
02.21.2012 , 08:16 PM | #9
I just got 2 pieces of loot for Mako in HM BT. Everyone else rolled greed and I asked If i could need for Mako. They said yea.

When the second one dropped, 2 other BHs said they could also use for Mako, but they already rolled greed for some strange reason. So I rolled Greed too and won it anyway. So I talked to them and convinced them it's better to ask and roll need instead of competing with a greed roll against people who will just vendor it for a couple thousand credits, which is really nothing.
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Bazouk
02.21.2012 , 08:21 PM | #10
your definition of need may not be the same as someone else's definition of need. and until bioware says what their definition of need is by changing the system, i don't see how it can be called ninja.

you need the gear so you can wear it so you can have an easier time doing the things in the game you like to do.

someone else needs the gear so their companion can wear it so they can have an easier time doing the things in the game they like to do.

how is it any different?

it isn't.

people lose a roll and look for any excuse to throw a temper tantrum. it's sad really.
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