Hybrid Sorcerer/Sage Utility is OP in PvP

Such a generic post in which you could easily replace Sorc/Sage with any other CC and it would just have as much merit.

P.S.: Hot tip popularity of a class has nothing to do with it being op or not.

thats my exact point... people need to stop being bad and blaming others for them being bad

Balancing is an on-going project. Class abilities will continually be adjusted throughout the lifespan of the game regardless of who you feel is the best class or the weakest class. If there are certain abilities that are unbalanced in PvP compared to other classes I would like to see it fixed regardless of how many good players know how to utilize said abilities. Right now the focus is on Sorcerers and their abundant PvP utility.

Being able to cast it on others isn't a disadvantage. It also doesn't mean you just assume everyone has a bubble either. A Sorc can keep a bubble up 100% of the time with minimal effort. Other classes cannot have a bubble up 100% of the time unless they have a pocket Sorc. If you count bubble being active for others you might as well substitute the external bubble with an external heal for the Sorc to balance it out. This is class damage mitigation without external help I'm talking about and you can't use external bubbles in such a calculation. You can argue other classes have defensive abilities but the majority of them are on long(3m) cooldowns and can't be relied upon to be up all the time like Sorcerer bubble.

This is your assumption. The 23/18 hybrid actually gets a lot of damage from Wrath Proc+CL as well as instant-cast CL procs. You could argue a 13/28 hybrid is better for 100% on the move damage but that's unrealistic. A Sorcerer kiting will typically still be casting the majority of the time while using CCs and Force Sprint to create distance repeatedly.

incorrect. smugg/op where hitting 8k+ from stealth on a 4seconds knockdown.. that is clearly op. Remember bioware have the figure that we do not as well as the analytical data. player representation wont affect anything. if anything a nerf will move players onto other classes balancing the population. the high visibility of sorcs/sages and representation probably doesnt help the nerf threads as when there is a lot of one class ppl qq and cry nerf.

the class also isnt out of balance. if anything one minor talent isnt working as intended as such. something as simple as making the blind only work when cast on self would fix a lot of issues.

as to the argument its not great. this thread has been going on far too long and the op has shown a lot of times his bias in the matter throughout the last two full threads on the issue. the fact hes asked for the title to be changed twice says everything.

1 sorc on their own isnt an issue. 2 isnt either.. loads of them are but thats an issue bioware need to adress to make other classes more appealing and nerfing the crap out of one class just isnt the answer. the more they ignore the nerf threads the more hope i have that bioware wont turn into another blizzard controlled by player qq on the forums

You know better than that =). Flash grenade is 8 Seconds PvE and 6 Seconds PvP. As for the theory crafting; I don't know, why don't you use your 4 second stun instead? I don't understand your post because if you think the 2 second stun after the whirlwind is useless then why spec into it in the first place?

A lot of misinformation here,
1) Smuggler/Op was only hitting 8k out of stealth with a crit, full BM, full buffs, full bio stims pre-nerf and pvp buff. The actual crit post the nerf capped out at 6k and was more likely around 5k, sorcs can hit 4k in pretty standard conditions without the stealth requirements as they currently stand and have very strong sustained AoE which, contrary to some sorc claims, is very useful in most PvP encounters.

2) Representation does matter because, for better or worse, people will quit post nerfs. Bioware needs to show strong sub numbers for a sustained period of time to demonstrate success (for investors) and angering a base of players that by some polls represents close to 50% of the total population is way too risky at this point.

3) Explain to me the rationale for why changing the title weakens the argument? The underlying argument hasn't changed, the title change just helps clarify the exact argument.

I just rolled a Sorc, and I have more utility and fun playing at level 17 than I do on my 50 Powertech Iron Fist build.
Sure I'm more squishier on my Sorc at this level but it's still more fun for me to be able to knockback people off the ramps, sprint with the ball over the fire, and stun/slow people down continuously.

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