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How is something INSTANT when it is blocked by GCD !

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How is something INSTANT when it is blocked by GCD !

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BobaFurz
02.21.2012 , 03:24 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by ugig View Post
What I, and many others here are trying to point out is that the advantages of an "instant" ability in this game are mobility and freedom from interupts more than time for activation.
Alright but I wasnt talking about tactics, I was only talking about gcd...nvm.
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TetraCleric
02.21.2012 , 03:25 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by kronomandar View Post
99% of posters in this thread have entirely missed the point of what the OP is talking about. you have focused more on the GCD mention in the OP, rather than the delayed nature of so called "instants".

let me give you an example.

the sith warrior ability Smash is an instant ability. it can be used whilst moving.

if you hit the smash button, the GCD starts, the animation starts, but the damage is NOT applied.
when the animation ends - coinciding with the end of the GCD - the damage is applied.

if between the start of the animation and the end, the warrior suffers some kind of interupt, such as from being knocked back, or other CC, the ability is effectively canceled and no damage is applied.

this is why the OP is saying that these so called "instant" abilities are instant only in name. in practice, many of them instead are 1 second or 1.5 second cast time abilities.

against a player with twitch reflexes who knows what he's doing (and more importantly, knows what your doing) this makes these abilities a serious handicap in pvp.

animations are nice candy, but give me the damage first pls.
If he was talking about animation delay, then why is he continually specifically referencing the GCD?

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Keldaur
02.21.2012 , 03:28 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by TetraCleric View Post
If he was talking about animation delay, then why is continually specifically referencing the GCD?
Because he is a succesful troll.

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Gallego
02.21.2012 , 03:28 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Grubfist View Post
Useless in PvE, but in PvP, sometimes you need the damage to land faster.
You cant snipe unless you are in cover, cover itself takes .5 seconds to get in (animation lag), so unless your 1 snipe kills the person, the skill is mostly useless. 2 points could be well spent elsewhere for more advantage (like legshot cd reduction).

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kronomandar
02.21.2012 , 03:28 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by TetraCleric View Post
If he was talking about animation delay, then why is continually specifically referencing the GCD?
ok, maybe it is me that misunderstood the OP.

if this is the case then he has entirely missed the point of the GCD in the first place.

a few sharp slaps to the back of the head to learn him to think things through more fully in future.

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EternalFinality
02.21.2012 , 03:29 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by TetraCleric View Post
If he was talking about animation delay, then why is continually specifically referencing the GCD?
Seriously.

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Batslav
02.21.2012 , 03:29 PM | #47
GCD have nothing to do with it
if its instant its instant its about the cast time not the cooldown

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Redmarx
02.21.2012 , 03:32 PM | #48
Instant = no cast time

GCD = global cool down <--- read each word carefully

All abilities have an effective 1.5 sec cooldown.

What is so hard to understand.

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Labradoraki
02.21.2012 , 03:32 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Ahhmyface View Post
think harder.
+1... the onyl reson of gcd is to reduce the skill cap and reduce the abilities of good players... and even if that is not enough they want to keep autofacing, button spamming etc to reduce the already reduced slow skill cap....


i cant w8 for gw2 and generals 2... an rts that might actually need skill compared to mmos but i guess thats scary to even think about playing competitive online rts that ppl actual **** RUSH YOUR BAEZ

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Gallego
02.21.2012 , 03:33 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Batslav View Post
GCD have nothing to do with it
if its instant its instant its about the cast time not the cooldown
I'm not sure if the OP thought of this yet or if it was a point he's tried getting across.

Perhaps the instants shouldn't be on GCD until they are activated. In other words, the instant only goes on GCD when they are cast, so you still cant spam it but it is a true instant ability.

I really have no idea TBH.