People who ninja for their companions

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I PUG though...

I do know, and I fully understand.

But, I've been burned by this NBG thing so many times on so many games, I refuse to allow it happen to me again. And yes, even on ToR.

which is the same is rolling need for Alts that aren't in the Fight which is a huge no no and the same as rolling need for a friend who's not in the group.

Companions should be secondary to players unless no one wants the item. People who do that in my groups get kicked out. As a tank with my friend always the healer we always run our own dungeon groups. If your a DPS and anger the tank and the healer...good luck finding another group.

Exactly this

Read above.. I've played along with this NBG thing before and sometimes, still do, depending on the players I'm playing with.

But I've seen peeps need and sell, peeps need and leave, peeps need and use on an alt and a myriad of other things.

So don't expect me to trust anyone on any game to abide by the consensus. The NBG thing works fine if you know the players you are playing with. In a general PuG, I' sorry you don't know any of them so in my opinion, it's best I play my game, and roll on what-ever I need, because sure as MOnday comes after Sunday, everyone else is doing the exact same thing.

As for informing players, that's not going to happen. I don't feel I have any requirement to inform or seek yours or anyone else's approval.

You guys can claim all kinds of blacklisting, kicking me from your group, and you know what, I really don't care. I prefer to do my thing on my terms, not yours. If you want me to bow to you, it's just not going to happen and I can happily live with not grouping with you.

Is this the same person who is arguing that it's ok to click NEED whenever he wants? How can you get "burned" on something that you're taking advantage of? Or, are you not taking advantage of the system and everyone else is just not using it right?

The thing is, they are the ones getting burned now. So, you were one of us at one point and you just changed your tune so you wouldn't be the one getting burned anymore...?

Seems you're just arguing to argue now (is this what's called a troll? no offense, because I've never called anyone that before...but seriously). That's pretty messed up.

*yawn* heard it all before, ignored it all before.

Lots of pages of replies, and certainly people on both sides of this issue, as well as some in the middle. Being a long time gamer and MMO player, I come down somewhere in the middle of this issue.

First I agree that gear/item rolls should be defined first in a PUG. I will roll need for the actual character I'm playing on for an item that I can immediately equip (or could equip when I ding the next level), otherwise I'll roll greed.

As for companions... in SWTOR they ARE part of your character which presents a unique dilema. If an item dropped that my companion, (who I'm using in that PUG) could use/equip on the spot I would have no issue rolling need for it. If I and my companion helped clear the FP or down the boss for the gear, then I should be able to roll need. However, myslef personally, I would likely ask the rest of the group if I could need for said companion before choosing need. Since, I'd rather have a good rep within my server/community than get a shiney new piece of gear that I may or may not still be using in 5 more levels.

This is also why I don't favor cross server LFG, since people know they may never play with the group again, you get more ***hatery.

Oh gosh, he called me a troll, whatever will I do now..

Your circular argument is archaic and without merit.

Question. If you join a group and the group leader immediately says, "Loot rules for this group: Only greed for companions. If you don't agree with that and won't follow it, please speak up now."

Do you leave the group? Do you follow the rules set by the leader? Do you tell them you will be rolling need on companions? Or do you just stay quiet and roll need on companions without mentioning it?