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No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

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Touchbass
02.21.2012 , 12:24 AM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfeisberg View Post
A better solution would be to have not more then 1 server in the first place. They already have the planet instance technology, so now just make all servers into one big server with there being multiple instances of the planets. For the planets that currently have PvP possible, have PvP instances and PvE instances of the planets, and people who like world PvP will choose the PvP instances, and those who do not like PvP will just choose the PvE instances.

This is the best possible solution.

If having PvE and PvP instances, then just have 2 servers per region

US PvE server
US PvP server
EU PvE Server
EU PvP Server
I'd divide them up a bit more but this would be great as long as it didn't drain processing power too much
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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DarthSabreth
02.21.2012 , 12:33 AM | #42
I would love to see a cross server LFG tool, its really tough getting flashpoints together, i also think pvp ques should be cross server as well, with a choice of which battle ground you want to pvp in.
"I have brought peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new Empire!" Rip .

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fyrephly
02.21.2012 , 01:05 AM | #43
Let's see how many communities I can kill by spamming /1 and /w before they implement an LFG tool.

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Yakito
02.21.2012 , 04:58 AM | #44
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So you were in a hardcore guild that recruited by testing out people in 5 mans? That's an average to below average guild, sorry. Real hardcore guilds recruited by picking the pockets of competing guilds or recruiting transfers. I didn't mean to insult you, I'm just being honest.
You are wrong, you can recruit somebody with many methods, one of them is meeting a player in a 5 man and seeing that he's really good. That's how I got into a guild that killed SOA 16 Nightmare fairly early.


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I usually find that people who want LFD are the more social people around out there, whereas those who want no X-LFD want a very small tight community of friends. Both sides are valid but your generalizing is not only the inncorrect way of looking at things, it's plain wrong.
Funny, but I just don't see it. You are basing this theory on what exactly? (oh the irony!)

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I love how you believe we are trying to destroy the game that I pay a monthly fee for.
Yes, because you are throwing this "I am paying for it" around it seems, you don't care. You already jumped ships from WoW, probably Rift too, which makes me think that you'd jump from TOR to GW2 without a second thought. The LFD callers are usually the ones that quit fairly early, to be honest.


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If anyone cancels over a X- LFD then they are a whiny baby. You'd leave a game with great promise over one thing you didn't get your way over? It's fine to not like a feature and snub but to quit over it just shows that you are a baby.
I am surprised by the lack of your logic. Let me quote you there - "that I pay a monthly fee for" It shows that I am a paying customer with a choice. There are so many issues I have to put up in this game, FPS is the biggest one so far, slideshow Ilum and so on, that I literally cannot take much more crap. If they pile up LFD on top of that... I'll just be done.



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You've made it very clear that I'm wrong. Lets look at your post a bit more closely.
In my eyes you are, so very very wrong. Also the funny attempts to take my sentences apart are cute, but don't make you smarter or any more convincing.


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The game is exactly the same minus a few modifications. Nothing is wrong with that.
Everything is wrong with that. You didn't really answer my question there, but "nothing is wrong with that" will suffice. It tells me that you don't mind every MMO to be exactly the same, just with a different skin. It puzzles me. It almost makes me laugh at myself, because I should honestly drop this debate, there's no point in arguing with people that came from WoW and want this game to be just like WoW.
TOR can rock by being innovative, but Devs are also very scared of even trying anything new, and many people got tired of WoW and will therefore get tired of TOR even faster due to bugs, and WoW has a strong playerbase already, there's no need for them to migrate to this game if all they see is a copy of what they have already but with bugs on top of it. There's a lot of bad press already.

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Because there are legitimate reasons why people want them and why people don't want them. The majority rules I'm afraid.
It's funny, and you may laugh at it, in fact you have every right to, but majority isn't always right. There are so many people that have no idea what's good. Just look at the world around you and see what the majorities do in some countries.

And then again, you have no right to say that people wanting LFD are the majority.
As I said, in Beta polls we re clear - no LFD and I think it was 3 to 1.
Obviously now we have more people, but I am affraid these people are missing WoW... and a lot of them will come back to it (I hope).

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Yakito
02.21.2012 , 05:02 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
I'm already seeing "LF Tank for Heroic X, must be geared, quick good run". Gotta love a ladder run gear progressions system when the communities don't let people progress up it.
I think you missed the fact that he said "Heroic/Hard Mode", which you do indeed need a tiny bit of gear for.
I just don't see your point here. It's certainly not an argument for LFD. Not even close.

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Wetworks
02.21.2012 , 09:32 AM | #46
"u r wrong,
merge servers wont work,
cause in my time zone there is not enough ppl,
BW should provide a free server transfer system,
A game shouldnt design to bind player on one server.

Do real GLOBAL LFG , it means crose ALL servers LFG,
ALL players who sub can find ALL others(one can find the other 1.7 mil), that's the real solution."

@Oakamp,

Try to contribute within the English language if you plan to contradict my contribution please.

"cause in my time zone there is not enough ppl"
Do you live in Antarctica? 2-3+ shards any time zone is just fine.

"A game shouldnt design to bind player on one server."
You could always go back to your Xbox/PS for online play.

"Do real GLOBAL LFG , it means crose ALL servers LFG,
ALL players who sub can find ALL others(one can find the other 1.7 mil), that's the real solution."
I really hope you are trolling, not even going to extend an explanation for such a response. Once again Xbox/SOE may be a better fit for you.


What I proposed would answer the issue.

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Thorun
02.21.2012 , 09:36 AM | #47
This will bring people back, and bioware likes money.

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ferroz
02.21.2012 , 09:54 AM | #48
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You aren't asking for realm LFG, you are asking for a Cross realm, which in my opinion is just an attempt to destroy this game even further.
No, it's clearly an attempt to have a cross realm lfg. Nothing more.

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This game is too new to ruin it with a lazy tool to fix a problem.
The tool doesn't ruin anything.

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Like Dual Spec was just a lazy attempt to fix the lack of PVE to PVP talents balance, which was not a problem in EQ2.
Dual spec in wow was to fix the situation where people had to play two different spec for twp differemt set of content (soloing, groups, or raids, pvp ). It wasn't specific to pve vs pvp.

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I know for a fact that many people will cancel the moment Cross realm LFD goes live.
I know for a fact that many people will buy the game the moment Cross realm LFD goes live.

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you somehow want to convince me that you are right.
if you're convinced, so be it... but I can still point out to other people where you're wrong.

don't get so caught up in the fact that people are responding to you... it doesn't actually mean that anyone is trying to convince YOU personally of anything.

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Why do you insist on bringing every single tool from WoW? Dual Spec, LFD, and so on?
Good features are good, regardless of where they come from.

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I thought people wanted something new in a different game
Copying good features doesn't mean that you can't get something new as well.

If you want to have an innovative new car, that's great... but it had better have an air conditioner, and seat belts, and doors, and windows that I can roll down, etc. Or something that is functionally equivalent.

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ferroz
02.21.2012 , 10:07 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Yakito View Post
You are wrong, you can recruit somebody with many methods, one of them is meeting a player in a 5 man and seeing that he's really good. That's how I got into a guild that killed SOA 16 Nightmare fairly early.
There's nothing to stop people from doing this that is intrinsic to cross server lfd.


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Funny, but I just don't see it. You are basing this theory on what exactly? (oh the irony!)
He presents his opinion, clearly marks it as such, and says that both opinions are valid... what exactly about that is ironic?

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Yes, because you are throwing this "I am paying for it" around it seems, you don't care. You already jumped ships from WoW, probably Rift too, which makes me think that you'd jump from TOR to GW2 without a second thought.
No I'm still playing wow, so I haven't jumped ships. I played eq for ~8 years, and then wow for 5?

I have 0 interest in GW2.

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The LFD callers are usually the ones that quit fairly early, to be honest.
Speculation at best.

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Heranden
02.21.2012 , 10:26 AM | #50
LFD same server tool was a godsend. It just made your community tighter because you saw the same people frequently. We picked up many good guildies with it. Low population servers still had issues.

Cross realm LFD did destroy the closeness you felt. But it did make getting in groups faster if you were not a tank. The game became a little worse (my opinion), but it pleased a lot more people.