Attacking republic in Open World is griefing?

Heh, no wonder the Dev's can't get Illum right. The vast majority of PvP-ers in this thread (because if we aren't PvP-ers, why would we be reading this), fall neatly into two categories:

1:- "I only want to PvP when it suits me, despite rolling on a PvP server", or

2:- "I chose a PvP server because I want to be able to be a complete dick to anyone I choose, at any time, without showing the slightest shred of anything resembling social competence or any understanding of how my actions affect other people".

For goodness sake, with the tiny, tiny number of people in this thread who actually advocate genuine "PvP for fun" as opposed to "Griefing for fun", it's no wonder that Illum is a kill-trading, faction imbalanced zerg-fest.

In this case, and most like it, the developers don't ruin PvP. The current mentality of PvP-ers does that all on it's own.

Heh, no wonder the Dev's can't get Illum right. The vast majority of PvP-ers in this thread (because if we aren't PvP-ers, why would we be reading this), fall neatly into two categories:

1:- "I only want to PvP when it suits me, despite rolling on a PvP server", or

2:- "I chose a PvP server because I want to be able to be a complete dick to anyone I choose, at any time, without showing the slightest shred of anything resembling social competence or any understanding of how my actions affect other people".

For goodness sake, with the tiny, tiny number of people in this thread who actually advocate genuine "PvP for fun" as opposed to "Griefing for fun", it's no wonder that Illum is a kill-trading, faction imbalanced zerg-fest.

In this case, and most like it, the developers don't ruin PvP. The current mentality of PvP-ers does that all on it's own.

There is PvP solution for it. People were fine with this in WoW and no one got banned for this issue.

They got warned for abusing the "Mob Tagging / Control" system, not for anything else that I can see.

They were dispatched easily by the Repubs, but the "Control" of the world boss, and thus the loot, was never relinquished to the Repubs due to your repeated efforts.

You were circumventing the intended rules of the game (IE. kill a boss for loot, as opposed to exploiting a bug to try and get the loot for what was another group of player's work).

From the sounds of it, the GM even observed what you were doing to make sure it wasn't just trying to Jump the repubs during the fight, saw you repeatedly abusing the mob Control system, and removed you from the zone. A rather light punishment IMO, I've seen people get Temp Bans for less in other games.

Except that on a PvP server the rules of the game are that PvP happens and will interfere with your questing. PvE players need to play on PvE servers. The server selection actually makes you click on a box notifying all players that things like this can occur. This should not be a rules violation. Now it's sounding like BW has written the rules to contradict one another, which is going to result in confusion. The simple truth of PvP servers is that this is normal, expected, and even desired. And if you don't want it, you're on the wrong type of server. Some of the best PvP fights in Rift occurred at the site of world bosses where each side attempted to deny the other the boss or, in the alternative, both sides killed the boss and then turned on each other to try and deny each other the option to loot the boss.

Except that on a PvP server the rules of the game are that PvP happens and will interfere with your questing.

^Well said.. "keep your PVE rules off the PVP servers" ...should be the name of this thread.