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Open World PvP is ALIVE!!!!!!
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Tarianz
02.20.2012 , 09:29 AM | #151
You won't be doing this often, this type of "world pvp" gets very boring and has little to no reward.
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Valsdad
02.20.2012 , 09:34 AM | #152
Quote: Originally Posted by BounceZ View Post
It doesn't take a genius to figure out. But that's if you have 30 people. And at a level that is acceptable too.

What about the people who are on their own? Is it fair if they get killed upon arrival?

Btw, just to clarify, I have nothing against PvP in bases. I do however have issues on camping the port-in and med centres. That's my issue at hand.
FYI, you don't have to load again to land on Hoth. The planet loads when you arrive at the orbital station. Actually landing on the the planet is instant so 30 people can easily click the shuttle at the same time and orient themselves before they are overrun.
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02.20.2012 , 09:41 AM | #153
Quote: Originally Posted by Valsdad View Post
FYI, you don't have to load again to land on Hoth. The planet loads when you arrive at the orbital station. Actually landing on the the planet is instant so 30 people can easily click the shuttle at the same time and orient themselves before they are overrun.
Aye. But you do appear at the exact same place which means the opposition only have to target a single area. A mass attack on one area and its night night new arrival.

You mention 30 people easily doing this. Have you seen 30 people respond to an attack at once before then? Honest question, not being a *****.
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Valsdad
02.20.2012 , 09:44 AM | #154
Quote: Originally Posted by BounceZ View Post
Aye. But you do appear at the exact same place which means the opposition only have to target a single area. A mass attack on one area and its night night new arrival.

You mention 30 people easily doing this. Have you seen 30 people respond to an attack at once before then? Honest question, not being a *****.

Well, 22 people organized an attack. It stands to reason that 30 people can organize a response.
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Erevan_Kindelar
02.20.2012 , 09:46 AM | #155
The irony of it is that when the Imps did something similar on Ilum and camped the Republic spawns, there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth. This does not seem to have caused quite so much of an emotional response yet. Maybe after a few nights of it, we will have to see.
Hopping from port to port and hitting spots randomly is just what Open world PvP needs to get the faction warfare going

Ultimately, it would be interesting to see open world PvP where you can take the opposition's Fleet. It would mean there is no safe spot anywhere on PvP servers, but they are PvP servers, and there is a war on!
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Valsdad
02.20.2012 , 09:46 AM | #156
I'm sorry, but I had to laugh. I bolded the source of my merriment.

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If you think killing people at 30:1 odds is rewarding then you aren't a pvper.
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AstralProjection
02.20.2012 , 09:46 AM | #157
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as much as i share your definition of world pvp i still have to disagree on this point as it is contradicting itself. if most people do not share your opinion on world pvp, it can't work.

and actually it doesn't, at least on the very most servers. people are not moving over to defend against such a raid or a meeting to start one. they instead prefer jumping like mad in front of the wz terminals or wait a couple of hours for the 30min illum raid.
It works fine on some servers. See, on our server we took matters into our own hands...you know, actually talked to friends and enemies alike to schedule fun open world events.

People are crying saying they're sick of Ilum and Warzones, but then you have pessimists popping on here saying fun open pvp can't be done and nobody will participate without an incentive.

Both of those things aren't true. While Open World PVP doesn't happen very "naturally" in TOR, if you set it up, it's very fun for all parties.

I think most people still will defend a given planet, if they know about it in advance, just for the factional pride of it, and for the sake of doing something with their guild. It's harder to get people to leave their precious gear-grind spur of the moment anymore though, I will say that.

A lot of people get isolated from their larger guild membership and get used to playing with the same Warzone/Ops group these days now that these games are totally gear based. Events like this make the whole group feel like a team again.

Yeah, it's laggy right now, but that part will get better, and has been a staple of MMORPG's for a while. None of them handle large scale PVP well anymore. It's a small price to pay for actually having a real War on your server though.
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Mandalorianu
02.20.2012 , 09:47 AM | #158
i must admit it might be more fun to do this on belsavis or something. alot more chance of there being lvl 50 players in the zone as normal, ans the port would be tough to hold due to lvl 50 mobs.

also i would agree that killing ppl when you have a 30:1 advantage is not a challenge, however when you have a 30:1 disadvantage? now that is fun

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Tarianz
02.20.2012 , 09:48 AM | #159
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I would ignore that Zash person, looking at his/her post it's clear it's a troll with no real input to the conversation.
No worries, I like to respond to some people that think they are good pvpers when they are in fact, terrible.

Just have to remember that a lot of the WoW pvp crowd has came to SWTOR and want to be on top since its a relatively new game.

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I'm sorry, but I had to laugh. I bolded the source of my merriment.
Funny... too bad I didn't say anything about Sith being better than Repubs did I?
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Corran
02.20.2012 , 09:49 AM | #160
a bunch of level 50's camped a level 38-41 zone



that's not world pvp. that's ganking. that's like calling tarren mill or the org tunnel in vanilla wow 'world' pvp
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