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Design decisions and why the game engine hurts TOR

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Design decisions and why the game engine hurts TOR

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Feanor_cz
02.20.2012 , 06:46 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Rollcageuk View Post
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I want people to post what they dont like.

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Why?
When people stop playing COD, do they go onto the forums and rant about it? No.
So why should this be anything different?

Why are you so bothered about someone else leaving? Does the reasons for them leaving affect your game in any way? No

Why does the op think his opninion matters to the point he has to come here and post in General about him leaving.
He isn't even asking BW to fix it. If he was then he would post in the suggestions thread. This thread is pure attention seeking and nothing more. It looks good and his issues are valid, but if he is serious about telling BW those issues then there are better ways to do it.

You want to help make the game better, there are better ways than an "I quit" thread in general.
You just want to troll...not interested.
You just want attention.. not interested.

Well OP wrote very nice and cleasr post to give feedback what he thinks is important , lot of ppl obviously agree with him , as well as me.
So why do you think your post is so important that we have to read it and endure your foolishness ?
Just check the numbers how much went the population on servers down.I down want to make any conclusion from those numbers but that is truth.Ppl are not playing as much as they used to.

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Traumahawk
02.20.2012 , 06:48 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Rollcageuk View Post
Quote:
I want people to post what they dont like.

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Why?
When people stop playing COD, do they go onto the forums and rant about it? No.
So why should this be anything different?

Why are you so bothered about someone else leaving? Does the reasons for them leaving affect your game in any way? No

Why does the op think his opninion matters to the point he has to come here and post in General about him leaving.
He isn't even asking BW to fix it. If he was then he would post in the suggestions thread. This thread is pure attention seeking and nothing more. It looks good and his issues are valid, but if he is serious about telling BW those issues then there are better ways to do it.

You want to help make the game better, there are better ways than an "I quit" thread in general.
You just want to troll...not interested.
You just want attention.. not interested.

The OP's opening statement:
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"In fairness, I had looked forward to this game for many years. Saved up for a new PC purely for TOR, made sure to get the collector's edition, and blindly applied a 6 month sub on the sheer belief I had in this game. After all, Bioware are my favourite studio. What can possibly go wrong?"
Boy you are a tough one to please! Calling this a "quit thread" yet that word wasn't in the title. Somehow knowing that the OP's real intent was to sully the game's reputation beyond repair and that all of his prior enthusiasm and hope for the game is just a show. Claiming that a well thought-out (a rarity) and well composed argument isn't constructive enough to warrant discussion. I'm sorry, but you aren't representing your "side" very well. It's coming across as much more of an inappropriate rant than the OP's post ever was.

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Terko_Koslah
02.20.2012 , 06:54 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by Rollcageuk View Post
Quote:
I want people to post what they dont like.

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Why?
When people stop playing COD, do they go onto the forums and rant about it? No.
So why should this be anything different?

Why are you so bothered about someone else leaving? Does the reasons for them leaving affect your game in any way? No

Why does the op think his opninion matters to the point he has to come here and post in General about him leaving.
He isn't even asking BW to fix it. If he was then he would post in the suggestions thread. This thread is pure attention seeking and nothing more. It looks good and his issues are valid, but if he is serious about telling BW those issues then there are better ways to do it.

You want to help make the game better, there are better ways than an "I quit" thread in general.
You just want to troll...not interested.
You just want attention.. not interested.
He is posting his opinions here so we can discuss them and hope that some day we will get that awesome star wars mmo we have always dreamed of.

Also: How can an average player know what can and can't be changed in the game and how long this process will take if the developers don't even know that. The content and gameplay that we have now is in my opinion on f2p level.

The combat is awesome in my opinion although boss fights are just another spam fest like in almost every other mmo I've played.
"Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is." -- Jedi Master Yoda

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WarTornPanda
02.20.2012 , 06:54 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Rollcageuk View Post
Quote:
I want people to post what they dont like.

---
Why?
When people stop playing COD, do they go onto the forums and rant about it? No.
So why should this be anything different?

Why are you so bothered about someone else leaving? Does the reasons for them leaving affect your game in any way? No

Why does the op think his opninion matters to the point he has to come here and post in General about him leaving.
He isn't even asking BW to fix it. If he was then he would post in the suggestions thread. This thread is pure attention seeking and nothing more. It looks good and his issues are valid, but if he is serious about telling BW those issues then there are better ways to do it.

You want to help make the game better, there are better ways than an "I quit" thread in general.
You just want to troll...not interested.
You just want attention.. not interested.
COD doesn't expect a monthly fee.
"I like assassinating assassins. They always look so surprised."
Imperial Agent

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sutekhbaal
02.20.2012 , 06:56 AM | #25
Great analysis of this game, agree with the post. Fully support.

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ArmchairMagpie
02.20.2012 , 07:00 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by WarTornPanda View Post
This post pretty much nails it. I mean... There are a few other things here and there, but absolutely every single core issue is here. Good job, OP. Hopefully Bioware reads this, suicides this game, and starts over from scratch. Maybe they would be smart enough to hire you.



I was excited for this game. I played it and I hated it. I really don't see this game recovering so I want it to bomb so hard that no developer EVER considers creating something like this again.
I have noticed over the years that it's mostly those who got over-hyped for a game turn their previous excitement into a zealous loathing. Which is why I personally think that hype is generally a bad thing. Nobody approaches a game in a sober way anymore, he's either hyped or not interested. No middle-ground ever. Why is that?

I was expecting the game to be somewhat successful but I was sceptical whether it would actually raise my interest.
I have played Beta however I still wouldn't say I was hyped for it after, just moderately surprised that it is not as bad as I expected. Now I am at a level of someone who'd play a game and find out its deeper flaws. I never rage about the flaws especially when I signed up playing despite their obvious existence. If they make me lose my interest in the long run I'll just cancel the subscription and move on. No reason to shell the forums with my repeated artillery strikes of random hate. If the game doesn't pay off it should give them hint enough and make them reset their expectations. Reality is the best teacher after all and has never failed.

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CptKloss
02.20.2012 , 07:07 AM | #27
and there we go folks, i couldnt have said it better myself. Nearly all the shortcomings are described in sufficient detail. After reading this you can have no doubts: this game is destined to fail in a very shor time, and there is no recourse.
"Please tell me Kenny is blowing up a man-shaped balloon"

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CptKloss
02.20.2012 , 07:10 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by ArmchairMagpie View Post
I have noticed over the years that it's mostly those who got over-hyped for a game turn their previous excitement into a zealous loathing. Which is why I personally think that hype is generally a bad thing. Nobody approaches a game in a sober way anymore, he's either hyped or not interested. No middle-ground ever. Why is that?
other than the fact that the OP had a will to write all these excellent points, it does not matter at all. ALL his observations are correct. Post should be stickied on , hehe, the "Wall of Crazy" somewhere in the BW studio.
"Please tell me Kenny is blowing up a man-shaped balloon"

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Meldwyn
02.20.2012 , 07:14 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Rollcageuk View Post
Quote:
I want people to post what they dont like.

---
Why?
When people stop playing COD, do they go onto the forums and rant about it? No.
So why should this be anything different?

Why are you so bothered about someone else leaving? Does the reasons for them leaving affect your game in any way? No

Why does the op think his opninion matters to the point he has to come here and post in General about him leaving.
He isn't even asking BW to fix it. If he was then he would post in the suggestions thread. This thread is pure attention seeking and nothing more. It looks good and his issues are valid, but if he is serious about telling BW those issues then there are better ways to do it.

You want to help make the game better, there are better ways than an "I quit" thread in general.
You just want to troll...not interested.
You just want attention.. not interested.
My guess is that you didn't even read more than a sentence or two. It wasn't an "I quit" thread as much as a "I don't play anymore, and here's why". He even claims that he is waiting to see how 1.2 does when released to see if playing again is an option for him.

Get off your high horse and "LISTEN".

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Azzras
02.20.2012 , 07:15 AM | #30
To the OP:

Your complaints are not the engine. You just used that title to catch people's eye so they would read your review of the game...not the engine.

A massive wall of text also ensures most will not read it, thus you get your instant gratification of people agreeing with you even though they didn't even read it.

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